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Do they not understand that - there’s no need for most remote jobs to hire only from the USA, and that - 60-80k is a huge salary in most of the world?

by em500 3y ago

jfengel 3y ago
I've never entirely understood why it was so difficult to make that work, but it seems to be. I've been anticipating being replaced by cheaper software developers working remotely, ever since I graduated college in the 90s. It never happened. As far as I can tell there are a bunch of reasons: language, time zone, shared cultural conventions, plain-old-racism, the value in at least having the option of occasional meeting in meatspace. Some of that is finally changing due to the pandemic forcing it on people. But I still think people are having trouble finding reliable employees in a country they don't understand, even though there are many millions of them available.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  NDAs, employment law, currency changes -- fees for changing, plus wiring money -- and all manner of national / state / provincial / local taxes, different pension and hiring rules, etc. and then there is the idea that you have no idea if i am who i really am, or if i'm the one doing the work. i could be a face on Teams Calls for what is essentially 5 Vietnamese kids, and we're all in different jurisdictions, so if we decide to rip off your IP, who would you sue? could you even get that lawsuit off the ground? and for all that risk you're eating 4% to do currency conversions & wire transfers. or else i'm standing up an offshore subsidiary at a cost and then dealing with payroll tax, filing costs, local HR and accounting, etc, as well. there is, potentially, a lot of liability and headache in that. and then there is the cultural, language, timezone, etc. difference.
- t-3 3y ago
  Probably because government contracting is such a huge part of the economy, aka why many positions require security clearances.
t-3 3y ago
60-80k is very good in most of the US, too.
znpy 3y ago
> there’s no need for most remote jobs to hire only from the USA You still need people in the same timezone as you, usually

Do they not understand that - there’s no need for most remote jobs to hire only from the USA, and that - 60-80k is a huge salary in most of the world?

by em500 3y ago

Do they not understand that - there’s no need for most remote jobs to hire only from the USA, and that - 60-80k is a huge salary in most of the world?

jfengel 3y ago

I've never entirely understood why it was so difficult to make that work, but it seems to be. I've been anticipating being replaced by cheaper software developers working remotely, ever since I graduated college in the 90s. It never happened. As far as I can tell there are a bunch of reasons: language, time zone, shared cultural conventions, plain-old-racism, the value in at least having the option of occasional meeting in meatspace. Some of that is finally changing due to the pandemic forcing it on people. But I still think people are having trouble finding reliable employees in a country they don't understand, even though there are many millions of them available.

red-iron-pine 3y ago
NDAs, employment law, currency changes -- fees for changing, plus wiring money -- and all manner of national / state / provincial / local taxes, different pension and hiring rules, etc. and then there is the idea that you have no idea if i am who i really am, or if i'm the one doing the work. i could be a face on Teams Calls for what is essentially 5 Vietnamese kids, and we're all in different jurisdictions, so if we decide to rip off your IP, who would you sue? could you even get that lawsuit off the ground? and for all that risk you're eating 4% to do currency conversions & wire transfers. or else i'm standing up an offshore subsidiary at a cost and then dealing with payroll tax, filing costs, local HR and accounting, etc, as well. there is, potentially, a lot of liability and headache in that. and then there is the cultural, language, timezone, etc. difference.
t-3 3y ago
Probably because government contracting is such a huge part of the economy, aka why many positions require security clearances.

t-3 3y ago

60-80k is very good in most of the US, too.

znpy 3y ago

> there’s no need for most remote jobs to hire only from the USA You still need people in the same timezone as you, usually