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Most office jobs outside of the software engineering bubble are like that. People do very little actual work. Making such roles fully remote is basically the fi

Most office jobs outside of the software engineering bubble are like that. People do very little actual work. Making such roles fully remote is basically the final step.

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WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
>Most office jobs outside of the software engineering bubble are like that. People do very little actual work. It's 2023 and text submission still doesn't auto-add the /s where it's needed. Is that ever going to be fixed?
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  Where is the sarcasm? I've been a consultant pulling well north of six figures and had weeks in the office doing fuck-all. 3 hours of meetings and then killing time on Slashdot. Except I had to be in the office, in a button-up shirt, and had to commute. I've done 50+ hour weeks at home, but when it's slow I'll take meetings while prepping a slow-cooker dinner. I had a boss that use to do the 1-on-1 meetings with his team (e.g. me) while running errands. I got used to hearing the sound of self-checkout machines while on that call, lol.
  - WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
    > Where is the sarcasm? I thought he was being sarcastic. I could be wrong. Intent can be tough to suss out of text. > I've been a consultant pulling well north of six figures and had weeks in the office doing frak-all. I'm sure it has happened somewhere at sometime; I have heard an anecdote or two. Perhaps three now. But based on what I've witnessed over 30 years of onsite calls (more fields than I can count) - the assertion that "Most office jobs outside of the software engineering ... People do very little actual work" - is false. Massively, bizarrely false. Conspiracy-theory level false. If it were true in the slightest, I'd of witnessed it repeatedly. I would have met people who could testify of it over and over. If not one in field, than another. What I (along with most folks) witness are employees doing actual work, many working to the point of their own physical detriment. Based on widespread reality, I rate the assertion as physics-grade false.
inhumantsar 3y ago
Even in software engineering. I've seen devs in enterprise jobs who could put in an hour or two a day and still get "exceeds expectations" on their performance reviews
- inkcapmushroom 3y ago
  Hey, it's me! I'm mostly valuable because I'm the only one on my project who hasn't quit at this point so I can help guide all the new people, including new project managers and tech leads. Even though I don't get much actual work done I'm there when they need to ask questions and that seems to be good enough. In fact if I had a remote position instead of in-office, I would probably meet this "lazy girl job" definition.
- OkayPhysicist 3y ago
  Yup. I'm a software dev at a small tech company, that mostly makes some industrial automation devices. My main job is "knowing the software": "XYZ is happening, is this a software bug?" "I'll take a look, but the software probably would only behave that way if hardware component ABC wasn't working". Maybe once a month or so a real software issue or feature request will come up, I'll spend 2-3 days implementing it, then another couple weeks will go by with it going through the (heavily manual) testing process. Don't get me wrong, those handful of days of work a month are not uncommonly pivotal in sealing multi-million dollar deals, so I'm earning my keep. But it would be nice if my employer recognized that I have 90%+ slack in my schedule, and let my fuck off and do my own (easily interuptable) thing.

Most office jobs outside of the software engineering bubble are like that. People do very little actual work. Making such roles fully remote is basically the final step.

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WarOnPrivacy 3y ago

>Most office jobs outside of the software engineering bubble are like that. People do very little actual work. It's 2023 and text submission still doesn't auto-add the /s where it's needed. Is that ever going to be fixed?

red-iron-pine 3y ago
Where is the sarcasm? I've been a consultant pulling well north of six figures and had weeks in the office doing fuck-all. 3 hours of meetings and then killing time on Slashdot. Except I had to be in the office, in a button-up shirt, and had to commute. I've done 50+ hour weeks at home, but when it's slow I'll take meetings while prepping a slow-cooker dinner. I had a boss that use to do the 1-on-1 meetings with his team (e.g. me) while running errands. I got used to hearing the sound of self-checkout machines while on that call, lol.
- WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
  > Where is the sarcasm? I thought he was being sarcastic. I could be wrong. Intent can be tough to suss out of text. > I've been a consultant pulling well north of six figures and had weeks in the office doing frak-all. I'm sure it has happened somewhere at sometime; I have heard an anecdote or two. Perhaps three now. But based on what I've witnessed over 30 years of onsite calls (more fields than I can count) - the assertion that "Most office jobs outside of the software engineering ... People do very little actual work" - is false. Massively, bizarrely false. Conspiracy-theory level false. If it were true in the slightest, I'd of witnessed it repeatedly. I would have met people who could testify of it over and over. If not one in field, than another. What I (along with most folks) witness are employees doing actual work, many working to the point of their own physical detriment. Based on widespread reality, I rate the assertion as physics-grade false.

inhumantsar 3y ago

Even in software engineering. I've seen devs in enterprise jobs who could put in an hour or two a day and still get "exceeds expectations" on their performance reviews

inkcapmushroom 3y ago
Hey, it's me! I'm mostly valuable because I'm the only one on my project who hasn't quit at this point so I can help guide all the new people, including new project managers and tech leads. Even though I don't get much actual work done I'm there when they need to ask questions and that seems to be good enough. In fact if I had a remote position instead of in-office, I would probably meet this "lazy girl job" definition.
OkayPhysicist 3y ago
Yup. I'm a software dev at a small tech company, that mostly makes some industrial automation devices. My main job is "knowing the software": "XYZ is happening, is this a software bug?" "I'll take a look, but the software probably would only behave that way if hardware component ABC wasn't working". Maybe once a month or so a real software issue or feature request will come up, I'll spend 2-3 days implementing it, then another couple weeks will go by with it going through the (heavily manual) testing process. Don't get me wrong, those handful of days of work a month are not uncommonly pivotal in sealing multi-million dollar deals, so I'm earning my keep. But it would be nice if my employer recognized that I have 90%+ slack in my schedule, and let my fuck off and do my own (easily interuptable) thing.