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Please be informed before commenting. Europe has undergone the hardest and most painful decoupling from Russian gas for quite a while. As of 2022 no gas in Euro

Please be informed before commenting. Europe has undergone the hardest and most painful decoupling from Russian gas for quite a while. As of 2022 no gas in Europe is imported from Russia.

jncfhnb 3y ago
Yes, that is my point. That hurts a lot and is enough to derail Europe pretty severely. But even had that not happened Europe wasn’t trending very well.
theironhammer 3y ago
It's essentially killed the German economy. It's all by design. The Americans don't want Germany and Russia teaming up to be a Regional Hegemon of Eurasia. Also now America can supply Germany with Gas. Is all by design. American Hegemony.
- camillomiller 3y ago
  It has not. Germany is in technical recession, but people are not dying in the streets, have jobs, and can take care of their families. In the US the economy is stellar, yet homelessness is peaking, with people unable to afford housing even if they have a job. Stop calling it “the economy” as if it was a direct translation of the reality of a society. It’s not. Signed: a business journalist.
  - jncfhnb 3y ago
    The parent there is spouting utter nonsense. But I think your analysis is poor. The homeless rate is higher in Germany than the US for example. Germany isn’t on fire, but I think it’s awkward to color it in a way that implies people are doing better there than the US. It will be a painful economic transition.
    - theironhammer 3y ago
      "JB: Since the Second World War, it has always been U.S. policy to prevent Germany and Russia or the USSR from working more closely together." JB = Jacques Baud, who worked for NATO. https://mronline.org/2022/03/31/the-policy-of-the-usa-has-always-been-to-prevent-germany-and-russia-from-cooperating-more-closely/ https://mronline.org/2022/03/31/the-policy-of-the-usa-has-al...
    - theironhammer 3y ago
      Then why were successive American President so adamantly opposed to Russia selling gas to Germany? Why would they care?
Tarsul 3y ago
I'm with you in argument. Nonetheless, Europe still imports 9% of its gas from Russia: https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/erdgas-versorgung-europas-im-live-tracker-speicher-pipelines-lng-a-e2986967-51d2-4c8c-9607-f3ff3e333361 https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/erdgas-versorgung-europas-...

Please be informed before commenting. Europe has undergone the hardest and most painful decoupling from Russian gas for quite a while. As of 2022 no gas in Europe is imported from Russia.

jncfhnb 3y ago

Yes, that is my point. That hurts a lot and is enough to derail Europe pretty severely. But even had that not happened Europe wasn’t trending very well.

theironhammer 3y ago

It's essentially killed the German economy. It's all by design. The Americans don't want Germany and Russia teaming up to be a Regional Hegemon of Eurasia. Also now America can supply Germany with Gas. Is all by design. American Hegemony.

camillomiller 3y ago
It has not. Germany is in technical recession, but people are not dying in the streets, have jobs, and can take care of their families. In the US the economy is stellar, yet homelessness is peaking, with people unable to afford housing even if they have a job. Stop calling it “the economy” as if it was a direct translation of the reality of a society. It’s not. Signed: a business journalist.
- jncfhnb 3y ago
  The parent there is spouting utter nonsense. But I think your analysis is poor. The homeless rate is higher in Germany than the US for example. Germany isn’t on fire, but I think it’s awkward to color it in a way that implies people are doing better there than the US. It will be a painful economic transition.
  - theironhammer 3y ago
    "JB: Since the Second World War, it has always been U.S. policy to prevent Germany and Russia or the USSR from working more closely together." JB = Jacques Baud, who worked for NATO. https://mronline.org/2022/03/31/the-policy-of-the-usa-has-always-been-to-prevent-germany-and-russia-from-cooperating-more-closely/ https://mronline.org/2022/03/31/the-policy-of-the-usa-has-al...
  - theironhammer 3y ago
    Then why were successive American President so adamantly opposed to Russia selling gas to Germany? Why would they care?

Tarsul 3y ago

I'm with you in argument. Nonetheless, Europe still imports 9% of its gas from Russia: https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/erdgas-versorgung-europas-im-live-tracker-speicher-pipelines-lng-a-e2986967-51d2-4c8c-9607-f3ff3e333361 https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/erdgas-versorgung-europas-...