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Did you give Zulip a try? We use it internally (self-hosted) and very much prefer it to anything else. Devops-wise, once setup, it takes very little effort (~10

by vitro 3y ago

Did you give Zulip a try? We use it internally (self-hosted) and very much prefer it to anything else. Devops-wise, once setup, it takes very little effort (~10 minutes every month, sometimes not even that, when there are no updates) to keep the instance running and updated.

cj 3y ago
In my experience half the reason people like Slack is for the ecosystem. We tried getting our company to adopt Google Chat but everyone wanted Slack because of integrations and apps (and they were just more familiar with it from using it at previous companies). I reluctantly let the company switch to Slack. But 100% driven by employee demand/satisfaction. If as an IT person I recommend anything other than Slack, it will immediately get shot down if I do a poll of employees. Employees like slack for whatever bizarre reasons, even when comparing it to basically identical chat apps. It’s almost like making a Mac person switch to Windows (or vice versa). People have a strange emotional connection with Slack making it hard to use anything else.
- okeuro49 3y ago
  > everyone wanted Slack because of integrations and apps (and they were just more familiar with it from using it at previous companies). > People have a strange emotional connection with Slack Seems to contradict: people don't have a strange emotional connection, they value the integrations, apps and familiarity.
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benterix 3y ago
Curious about your setup: did you use their recommended install method or a Docker image? And, more importantly, did you encounter any serious issues during that time? I'm considering replacing Slack with Zulip and wondering what could possibly go wrong.
- pritambaral 3y ago
  Not your parent but I did setup Zulip at two orgs now. Just used the official method. Never had a problem. Zulip has a very good Puppet setup that works very well.
- vitro 3y ago
  Ubuntu Server, used their standard install instructions, no docker. So far all their upgrades went without any problems at all, including major version bumps. As for running the server, I cannot recall any bigger problem I had, Zulip runs in our org for more than 5 years. Backups are also pretty easy to setup.

by vitro 3y ago

cj 3y ago

In my experience half the reason people like Slack is for the ecosystem. We tried getting our company to adopt Google Chat but everyone wanted Slack because of integrations and apps (and they were just more familiar with it from using it at previous companies). I reluctantly let the company switch to Slack. But 100% driven by employee demand/satisfaction. If as an IT person I recommend anything other than Slack, it will immediately get shot down if I do a poll of employees. Employees like slack for whatever bizarre reasons, even when comparing it to basically identical chat apps. It’s almost like making a Mac person switch to Windows (or vice versa). People have a strange emotional connection with Slack making it hard to use anything else.

okeuro49 3y ago
> everyone wanted Slack because of integrations and apps (and they were just more familiar with it from using it at previous companies). > People have a strange emotional connection with Slack Seems to contradict: people don't have a strange emotional connection, they value the integrations, apps and familiarity.
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benterix 3y ago

Curious about your setup: did you use their recommended install method or a Docker image? And, more importantly, did you encounter any serious issues during that time? I'm considering replacing Slack with Zulip and wondering what could possibly go wrong.

pritambaral 3y ago
Not your parent but I did setup Zulip at two orgs now. Just used the official method. Never had a problem. Zulip has a very good Puppet setup that works very well.
vitro 3y ago
Ubuntu Server, used their standard install instructions, no docker. So far all their upgrades went without any problems at all, including major version bumps. As for running the server, I cannot recall any bigger problem I had, Zulip runs in our org for more than 5 years. Backups are also pretty easy to setup.