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I'm a senior dev. Which means my knowledge and experience is often on higher level stuff. Hence I often need to look up details I don't bother to remember. I'm

I'm a senior dev. Which means my knowledge and experience is often on higher level stuff. Hence I often need to look up details I don't bother to remember. I'm not ashamed to say I search for lots of stuff, and often get results from SO. If anything, pretending to be completely knowledgeable "since one's a senior" is quite junior behavior.

arp242 3y ago
Also: sometimes I need to work with stuff I'm not so familiar with; no one is "senior" across the board. Even though I did Ruby full-time for a few years, it's been a while and I forgot a lot of basic boring stuff so I will end up searching things like "Ruby remove whitespace from string" (trim? strip? chop? chomp? delete? What were the differences again?) And even inside my main expertise, I will sometimes search for an answer just to verify that my thinking is correct and that I didn't miss anything (which is not a strong guarantee that I didn't, but better than nothing).
- golergka 3y ago
  That's where GPT-4 ate their lunch. I've never really administered servers myself before, but I was able to set up multi-container CI/CD on bare servers and monitoring with ELK, filebeat and metricbeat and public-faced services through nginx with SSL certificates and basic password authentication all in a single day. Before, I would use stack overflow and it would take me at least a week.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    I work in cloud consulting and I had a project where I needed to create a CI/CD proof of concept for the customer to use that involved deploying a Docker container to ECS (AWS’s Docker orchestrator) and show how they could integrate automated testing with the pipeline. They use Java - a language I literally haven’t used since maybe a year after it was introduced. I used ChatGPT to create the source code for the sample based on my specifications including Junit tests, the build with Maven, the Dockerfile - everything. Of course it got a few things wrong and missed steps and I had to keep pasting in error messages until it got it right. But it was still faster than trolling the internet. Of course I was very up front with the client that the Java pieces were all generated by ChatGPT.
    - teh_klev 3y ago
      > But it was still faster than trolling the internet. I'm guessing you mean trawling the internet rather than trying to upset and annoy the internet:)
      - JimDabell 3y ago
        No, “trolling” is actually correct. It’s less widely used than the meaning you refer to these days though. > the act of searching among a large number or many different places in order to find people or information you want > It takes me 45 minutes of trolling on the internet and I’m still confused. — https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/trolling https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/trolling
        scarface_74 3y ago
        Today I learned: while trawling is probably the word I should have used, I was unintentionally correct either way…
        teh_klev 3y ago
        "Mainly US" though which explains a lot ;) I see as well that the US English spelling for "trawl" (as in fishing) is troll. Again, mainly US.
        nerdponx 3y ago
        I would bet $30 that "weary" is listed as an alternative spelling for "wary" in Merriam Webster by 2030.
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        Even though the sibling comment said I was technically not wrong, I think “trawling” is the better term. And I assume trawling vs trolling is one of those things that you feel the urge to point out just like I hate when someone says “jive” instead of “jibe”. That last sentence was not meant to be passive aggressive at all. It was just an observation.
luckystarr 3y ago
To each their own. I haven't had the necessity to use it, and when I searched for problems the answers were mostly not applicable. All in all it wasn't worth the effort. I just read the source code of the lib I use instead. This tends to give me more for my time. I understand that everybody has their own unique situation and my statement wasn't meant to be generalized anyways.
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arp242 3y ago

Also: sometimes I need to work with stuff I'm not so familiar with; no one is "senior" across the board. Even though I did Ruby full-time for a few years, it's been a while and I forgot a lot of basic boring stuff so I will end up searching things like "Ruby remove whitespace from string" (trim? strip? chop? chomp? delete? What were the differences again?) And even inside my main expertise, I will sometimes search for an answer just to verify that my thinking is correct and that I didn't miss anything (which is not a strong guarantee that I didn't, but better than nothing).

golergka 3y ago
That's where GPT-4 ate their lunch. I've never really administered servers myself before, but I was able to set up multi-container CI/CD on bare servers and monitoring with ELK, filebeat and metricbeat and public-faced services through nginx with SSL certificates and basic password authentication all in a single day. Before, I would use stack overflow and it would take me at least a week.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  I work in cloud consulting and I had a project where I needed to create a CI/CD proof of concept for the customer to use that involved deploying a Docker container to ECS (AWS’s Docker orchestrator) and show how they could integrate automated testing with the pipeline. They use Java - a language I literally haven’t used since maybe a year after it was introduced. I used ChatGPT to create the source code for the sample based on my specifications including Junit tests, the build with Maven, the Dockerfile - everything. Of course it got a few things wrong and missed steps and I had to keep pasting in error messages until it got it right. But it was still faster than trolling the internet. Of course I was very up front with the client that the Java pieces were all generated by ChatGPT.
  - teh_klev 3y ago
    > But it was still faster than trolling the internet. I'm guessing you mean trawling the internet rather than trying to upset and annoy the internet:)
    - JimDabell 3y ago
      No, “trolling” is actually correct. It’s less widely used than the meaning you refer to these days though. > the act of searching among a large number or many different places in order to find people or information you want > It takes me 45 minutes of trolling on the internet and I’m still confused. — https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/trolling https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/trolling
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        Today I learned: while trawling is probably the word I should have used, I was unintentionally correct either way…
      - teh_klev 3y ago
        "Mainly US" though which explains a lot ;) I see as well that the US English spelling for "trawl" (as in fishing) is troll. Again, mainly US.
        nerdponx 3y ago
        I would bet $30 that "weary" is listed as an alternative spelling for "wary" in Merriam Webster by 2030.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      Even though the sibling comment said I was technically not wrong, I think “trawling” is the better term. And I assume trawling vs trolling is one of those things that you feel the urge to point out just like I hate when someone says “jive” instead of “jibe”. That last sentence was not meant to be passive aggressive at all. It was just an observation.

luckystarr 3y ago

To each their own. I haven't had the necessity to use it, and when I searched for problems the answers were mostly not applicable. All in all it wasn't worth the effort. I just read the source code of the lib I use instead. This tends to give me more for my time. I understand that everybody has their own unique situation and my statement wasn't meant to be generalized anyways.

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