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I live in the EU and I have been in the USA plenty of times and it is a great country with great people. Now.. to the election stuff... If you (plural - the pe

I live in the EU and I have been in the USA plenty of times and it is a great country with great people. Now.. to the election stuff... If you (plural - the people) don't like the "electorate college" method, change it. Perhaps it was serving you (plural - the people) 50-100-200 years ago, but now life, lifespan, roads, cities, technology has changed. Humans wrote this system, humans can change it. The quote "what got you here, won't get you there" applies perfectly for many functions that are more than 100 years old. Every time you got elections in the USA, I am thinking the systems that many/most EU countries have vs what the US has, and it baffles me how the #2 in votes "is assigned the task to solve the country's problems for the next 4 years", - aka president, pm, and other titles all over the world - yes aren't supposed to RULE us, they are supposed to SERVE us. Government is a system. Humans devised it. Humans placed it there. Humans can change it (if humans really-really-really want to and they have to really-really-really want because there are other humans who make a ton of $$$ by the current system and they will fight tooth-and-nail to keep it as it is now)(sorry for the long parentheses).

Dalewyn 3y ago
You are making the same mistake as the other guy, which is the mistaken belief that the US federal government represents and is chosen by the people. No, the US federal government represents and is chosen by the states. This is exemplified in how the US Constitution can be amended by a 3/4ths majority of the states, with each state getting one (yes: 1) vote. It is the states and their respective governments that represent and are chosen by the people. The states choose the President, but they can't do it via Congress because of the separation of powers between the branches of our government. So the Electoral College serves to emulate Congress, which is a method of representation that all states will agree on. Incidentally, Congress can and will choose the President in the very unlikely event that the Electoral College deadlocks and fails to carry out its duty. This is considered a constitutional crisis, however, and it's a situation we all want to avoid. Personally, I like the Electoral College because it reflects the above described political structure of the United States and the systems necessary to maintain it. The United States really is what it says on the tin, the states hold tremendous power because we are a union of states.
- watwut 3y ago
  In its current implementation, it all amounts to minority rule that is increasingly radical and suppressing as much opposition votes as possible, because they know they are minority.
- localplume 3y ago
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nemo44x 3y ago
The framers were quite aware of what they were doing by building a republic instead of a democracy. Tyrannical majorities, especially when it’s a slight majority, are dangerous things. Democracy in general is dangerous. It’s 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for lunch. The federal government is too big imo and people forget the country was built to be a federation of states which citizens could freely move around to and trade with. I think we would be better served to delegate more power back to the individual states. The commerce clause has to be the most abused piece of law in this country.

Dalewyn 3y ago

You are making the same mistake as the other guy, which is the mistaken belief that the US federal government represents and is chosen by the people. No, the US federal government represents and is chosen by the states. This is exemplified in how the US Constitution can be amended by a 3/4ths majority of the states, with each state getting one (yes: 1) vote. It is the states and their respective governments that represent and are chosen by the people. The states choose the President, but they can't do it via Congress because of the separation of powers between the branches of our government. So the Electoral College serves to emulate Congress, which is a method of representation that all states will agree on. Incidentally, Congress can and will choose the President in the very unlikely event that the Electoral College deadlocks and fails to carry out its duty. This is considered a constitutional crisis, however, and it's a situation we all want to avoid. Personally, I like the Electoral College because it reflects the above described political structure of the United States and the systems necessary to maintain it. The United States really is what it says on the tin, the states hold tremendous power because we are a union of states.

watwut 3y ago
In its current implementation, it all amounts to minority rule that is increasingly radical and suppressing as much opposition votes as possible, because they know they are minority.
localplume 3y ago
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nemo44x 3y ago

The framers were quite aware of what they were doing by building a republic instead of a democracy. Tyrannical majorities, especially when it’s a slight majority, are dangerous things. Democracy in general is dangerous. It’s 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for lunch. The federal government is too big imo and people forget the country was built to be a federation of states which citizens could freely move around to and trade with. I think we would be better served to delegate more power back to the individual states. The commerce clause has to be the most abused piece of law in this country.