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Two big reasons: 1. It’s a distraction from developing a solid IDE. I’m already displeased with their obvious VSCode envy and the new UI, so focusing on shiny f

Two big reasons: 1. It’s a distraction from developing a solid IDE. I’m already displeased with their obvious VSCode envy and the new UI, so focusing on shiny features makes me unhappy as a customer. 2. I don’t want AI assist, let alone “deeply integrated” AI assist. It is a security and privacy nightmare. As the article notes about the privacy policy, “Neither the user nor JetBrains has control over this third-party data processing.” Perhaps I’m a Luddite, but I think tools like this and copilot are terrible, and I don’t want to be forced into them.

gjvc 3y ago
1. It’s a distraction from developing a solid IDE. I’m already displeased with their obvious VSCode envy and the new UI, so focusing on shiny features makes me unhappy as a customer. I agree with you! I have had reasonable success in the past reporting bugs and getting them progressed via youtrack.jetbrains.com, but I have this lingering fear that less attention is being paid to that vs the exciting new features... I held my nose and paid for another year of subscription, but I'm not sure what I'll do next year. BTW, I love the phrase "obvious VSCode envy" :-) but I don't like what it portends :-(
noobdev9000 3y ago
New UI and VSC envy are good, it's already better than the old point-and-click adventure game UI they had. AI thing will be good too. It's not more of a security nightmare or different than SO assuming that the IDE isn't leaking secrets.
- foepys 3y ago
  They haven't had a "point-and-click adventure UI" for years. Pressing left Shift twice has been able to find ever single setting, button, code symbol, tool window, etc. since at least 2020. I initially really disliked the new UI but since they trimmed the negative space around icons and even introduced a compact mode, I switched. My only dislike is that all buttons are monochrome.
  - TheCapeGreek 3y ago
    >Pressing left Shift twice has been able to find ever single setting, button, code symbol, tool window, etc. since at least 2020. Which made the point-and-click early 2000s-level "every control is visible at all times" UI pointless. The visual minimalism is better.
yole 3y ago
Just to clarify: No one is forcing you to use AI assistance features. All the deeply integrated features start working only after you explicitly log in to JetBrains AI service.
- justinclift 3y ago
  It's not intended to be one of those "on by default" things in a future version of IntelliJ is it? If it is, I'll probably be cancelling my IntelliJ Ultimate subscription at about that point.

gjvc 3y ago

1. It’s a distraction from developing a solid IDE. I’m already displeased with their obvious VSCode envy and the new UI, so focusing on shiny features makes me unhappy as a customer. I agree with you! I have had reasonable success in the past reporting bugs and getting them progressed via youtrack.jetbrains.com, but I have this lingering fear that less attention is being paid to that vs the exciting new features... I held my nose and paid for another year of subscription, but I'm not sure what I'll do next year. BTW, I love the phrase "obvious VSCode envy" :-) but I don't like what it portends :-(

noobdev9000 3y ago

New UI and VSC envy are good, it's already better than the old point-and-click adventure game UI they had. AI thing will be good too. It's not more of a security nightmare or different than SO assuming that the IDE isn't leaking secrets.

foepys 3y ago
They haven't had a "point-and-click adventure UI" for years. Pressing left Shift twice has been able to find ever single setting, button, code symbol, tool window, etc. since at least 2020. I initially really disliked the new UI but since they trimmed the negative space around icons and even introduced a compact mode, I switched. My only dislike is that all buttons are monochrome.
- TheCapeGreek 3y ago
  >Pressing left Shift twice has been able to find ever single setting, button, code symbol, tool window, etc. since at least 2020. Which made the point-and-click early 2000s-level "every control is visible at all times" UI pointless. The visual minimalism is better.

yole 3y ago

Just to clarify: No one is forcing you to use AI assistance features. All the deeply integrated features start working only after you explicitly log in to JetBrains AI service.

justinclift 3y ago
It's not intended to be one of those "on by default" things in a future version of IntelliJ is it? If it is, I'll probably be cancelling my IntelliJ Ultimate subscription at about that point.