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https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/987327301875650561 https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/987327301875650561 "THREAD: It’s official. Today, I am formally

https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/987327301875650561 https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/987327301875650561 "THREAD: It’s official. Today, I am formally announcing my plan to decriminalize marijuana at the federal level. It’s time we allow states, once and for all, to have the power to decide what works best for them."

godelski 3y ago
To save people a click, Schumer posted this on 4/20 of 2018...
- nebula8804 3y ago
  Ah typical Democrats bread and butter: theatrics
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  - thefurdrake 3y ago
    At least it's not genocide :)
  - godelski 3y ago
    > Ah typical Democrats Name me any party who's modus operandi isn't akin to Kabuki theater
    - nebula8804 3y ago
      The Republicans are pretty clear in what they want to ruin no hiding behind the curtain. That sort of honesty is something. They are terrible but at least they dont really play as many games as Democrats. They scare you into voting for Democrats and then the Democrats disappoint you so much that you stop voting. Thats how the system works.
      - godelski 3y ago
        I kinda see what you're getting at, but the way the Republicans get there is through a lot of theatrics and manipulation. I mean how many times has MTG or Gates shown up to a congressional meeting, given their sound clip, and then just left? While the new members have been doing more of this, there was the whole Tea Party thing, Trump (look at how many sitting congressmen hated him in 2015 and then flipped), or the whole "I have a snowball, lol what's global warming" like stunts. It's a different kind of theatrics, but it is still theatrics. But I'll give you this, you're right that Republicans aren't trying to play some 4D chess. That Democrats are, but doing so with five heads. It's all theater and it is hard to watch.
jfengel 3y ago
I don't really get the point of states regulating a substance. That sounds like a recipe for crossed incentives, smuggling, and bad faith. It's bad enough for alcohol, and we do have a whole federal department to manage it. Why not just let the 21st century be the 21st century, with planes and roads that make state lines practically meaningless.
- godelski 3y ago
  The US was more intended to be not too dissimilar from say the EU. The fed grew and took more power, but that was part of "the grand experiment." I'm not saying one way is right or wrong, but this is why people frame things as state issues. I mean we are talking about states with the land mass and economic worth of European countries.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    Horse shit. We tried the loose federation thing and it nearly led to the end of the US before it really even started. The point of the constitution was a strong federal government. The supremacy clause is extremely clear that anything the feds make a law on IS the law, no matter what an individual state wants.
    - godelski 3y ago
      > We tried the loose federation thing and it nearly led to the end of the US before it really even started You're talking about a period of time that is 100 years after the time I'm talking about.
      - mrguyorama 3y ago
        Yes and the period of what was essentially Governor run Fiefdoms of states was EVEN WORSE than the articles of confederation at building a state that wasn't going to have constant petty land struggles internally. A significant part of the building of the US was convincing those governors to give up their total power in exchange for survival. It was literally "We either come together and be strong or die separately"

godelski 3y ago

To save people a click, Schumer posted this on 4/20 of 2018...

nebula8804 3y ago
Ah typical Democrats bread and butter: theatrics
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- thefurdrake 3y ago
  At least it's not genocide :)
- godelski 3y ago
  > Ah typical Democrats Name me any party who's modus operandi isn't akin to Kabuki theater
  - nebula8804 3y ago
    The Republicans are pretty clear in what they want to ruin no hiding behind the curtain. That sort of honesty is something. They are terrible but at least they dont really play as many games as Democrats. They scare you into voting for Democrats and then the Democrats disappoint you so much that you stop voting. Thats how the system works.
    - godelski 3y ago
      I kinda see what you're getting at, but the way the Republicans get there is through a lot of theatrics and manipulation. I mean how many times has MTG or Gates shown up to a congressional meeting, given their sound clip, and then just left? While the new members have been doing more of this, there was the whole Tea Party thing, Trump (look at how many sitting congressmen hated him in 2015 and then flipped), or the whole "I have a snowball, lol what's global warming" like stunts. It's a different kind of theatrics, but it is still theatrics. But I'll give you this, you're right that Republicans aren't trying to play some 4D chess. That Democrats are, but doing so with five heads. It's all theater and it is hard to watch.

jfengel 3y ago

I don't really get the point of states regulating a substance. That sounds like a recipe for crossed incentives, smuggling, and bad faith. It's bad enough for alcohol, and we do have a whole federal department to manage it. Why not just let the 21st century be the 21st century, with planes and roads that make state lines practically meaningless.

godelski 3y ago
The US was more intended to be not too dissimilar from say the EU. The fed grew and took more power, but that was part of "the grand experiment." I'm not saying one way is right or wrong, but this is why people frame things as state issues. I mean we are talking about states with the land mass and economic worth of European countries.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  Horse shit. We tried the loose federation thing and it nearly led to the end of the US before it really even started. The point of the constitution was a strong federal government. The supremacy clause is extremely clear that anything the feds make a law on IS the law, no matter what an individual state wants.
  - godelski 3y ago
    > We tried the loose federation thing and it nearly led to the end of the US before it really even started You're talking about a period of time that is 100 years after the time I'm talking about.
    - mrguyorama 3y ago
      Yes and the period of what was essentially Governor run Fiefdoms of states was EVEN WORSE than the articles of confederation at building a state that wasn't going to have constant petty land struggles internally. A significant part of the building of the US was convincing those governors to give up their total power in exchange for survival. It was literally "We either come together and be strong or die separately"