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Well there is one unarguable one, although with consequences. Instead of keeping some old machine with old dependencies because project is on life support and

by ilyt 3y ago

Well there is one unarguable one, although with consequences. Instead of keeping some old machine with old dependencies because project is on life support and doing update to latest version of language/tools is unviable, you can just keep a docker container for it while machine it is running on is up to date. It doesn't solve the problem of application, but it is no longer ops problem that app is old. You can also do that partially, like keep old PHP version running with just fcgi socket exposd in a container, while rest of the app lives on "normal" VM (or other container, if that's what you want).

MilStdJunkie 3y ago
That's what got me on the Docker kick. Old unsupported programs that are tightly coupled to a kernel version, a Windows thing, some combination of Java / JDK shenanigans, an old SoundBlaster DLL, "The Python Carnival", or, really, what-have-you. Honestly, every big ERP demo ever should be done via container, because - and I swear I am not making this up - I have sat in months-long meetings with dozens and dozens of staff, both mine and theirs, trying to get Big ERP X up and running on-prem under whatever weird-ass policies the customer has on all their environments. Granted, a lot of THAT benefits from the fact that the container actually has to be a documented flavor of good solid *NIX, unlike the "Windows Image X" which is usually just a big "whatever" of old iron, management fad spoor, and seven different kinds of antivirus software. Hell, last time I did this, IT couldn't even find me any kind of description of what the "official" windows image actually was. So no fault of Windows there, it's just that, as the big bus everyone rides in, it gets all the goop from everyone wrenching on it.
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- pxc 3y ago
  > seven different kinds of antivirus software The last time I counted up all the different persistent, security-related agents running on my corporate Windows box, it was actually 14.

by ilyt 3y ago

MilStdJunkie 3y ago

That's what got me on the Docker kick. Old unsupported programs that are tightly coupled to a kernel version, a Windows thing, some combination of Java / JDK shenanigans, an old SoundBlaster DLL, "The Python Carnival", or, really, what-have-you. Honestly, every big ERP demo ever should be done via container, because - and I swear I am not making this up - I have sat in months-long meetings with dozens and dozens of staff, both mine and theirs, trying to get Big ERP X up and running on-prem under whatever weird-ass policies the customer has on all their environments. Granted, a lot of THAT benefits from the fact that the container actually has to be a documented flavor of good solid *NIX, unlike the "Windows Image X" which is usually just a big "whatever" of old iron, management fad spoor, and seven different kinds of antivirus software. Hell, last time I did this, IT couldn't even find me any kind of description of what the "official" windows image actually was. So no fault of Windows there, it's just that, as the big bus everyone rides in, it gets all the goop from everyone wrenching on it.

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pxc 3y ago
> seven different kinds of antivirus software The last time I counted up all the different persistent, security-related agents running on my corporate Windows box, it was actually 14.