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The problem for me is less the Mac and more MacOS. It doesn't really feel that different from Windows to me now. Both are memory-bloated and shoving advertiseme

The problem for me is less the Mac and more MacOS. It doesn't really feel that different from Windows to me now. Both are memory-bloated and shoving advertisements in your face for first-party services constantly. They both conspire to make their OSes weaker and curb-cut their services to the point of being mandatory. They both hide meaningful options in esoteric databases and force you to crawl through shitty settings menus to get what you want. I feel terrible for consumers who have to use these systems now. Compared to the seclusive bliss of a Mac OS 7 machine, modern MacOS is an assault on the senses. MacOS has a lot of great things to show for itself, but I'm not convinced Apple can save it with the direction they're headed in.

throw198765 3y ago
> shoving advertisements in your face for first-party services constantly Give me ONE example of this advertising on MacOS that’s being ‘constantly shoved in your face’
- smoldesu 3y ago
  Of what I remember: - When you don't log in, Settings shows a red perpetual (1) notification and dialogue for iCloud - Putting on headphones defaults to Apple Music, and Apple Music defaults to a subscription ad modal - AppleTV defaults to your dock. I never asked for it, nor is it something useful like QuickTime. Apple just decided I wanted it, like Bluetooth headphones or U2 music. - The "Try the improved Safari!" notification perpetually showed up on my old Mac - Apple News is littered with third party ads to the point of unusability compared to other RSS readers
anigbrowl 3y ago
shoving advertisements in your face for first-party services constantly I got a Mac for the first time last year because it was massively discounted. I figured I'd install Linux on it, but was pleasantly surprised at how smooth of an experience MacOS was so I never bothered. I have yet to see a single advert. I get occasional notifications about system updates or prompts to replace my mouse batteries, but otherwise it stays out of my way. Nothing like Windows at all.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  I'll admit I have unrealistic expectations. My favorite retro OSes are Apple's minimalist takes, and modern MacOS is the opposite of that. I bought my first Mac ~a decade ago because I expected MacOS to lead the fight against Electron apps and cruddy software, but... here we are. Now your Settings app is a WebView and all your important software is Electron because Apple refused industry inroads. There's a glimmer of hope for an "ideal" version of MacOS that cuts away the marketing cruft, trusts the user more and uses less ancient internals. It's just not what Apple is known for though, so I moved on.

throw198765 3y ago

> shoving advertisements in your face for first-party services constantly Give me ONE example of this advertising on MacOS that’s being ‘constantly shoved in your face’

smoldesu 3y ago
Of what I remember: - When you don't log in, Settings shows a red perpetual (1) notification and dialogue for iCloud - Putting on headphones defaults to Apple Music, and Apple Music defaults to a subscription ad modal - AppleTV defaults to your dock. I never asked for it, nor is it something useful like QuickTime. Apple just decided I wanted it, like Bluetooth headphones or U2 music. - The "Try the improved Safari!" notification perpetually showed up on my old Mac - Apple News is littered with third party ads to the point of unusability compared to other RSS readers

anigbrowl 3y ago

shoving advertisements in your face for first-party services constantly I got a Mac for the first time last year because it was massively discounted. I figured I'd install Linux on it, but was pleasantly surprised at how smooth of an experience MacOS was so I never bothered. I have yet to see a single advert. I get occasional notifications about system updates or prompts to replace my mouse batteries, but otherwise it stays out of my way. Nothing like Windows at all.

smoldesu 3y ago
I'll admit I have unrealistic expectations. My favorite retro OSes are Apple's minimalist takes, and modern MacOS is the opposite of that. I bought my first Mac ~a decade ago because I expected MacOS to lead the fight against Electron apps and cruddy software, but... here we are. Now your Settings app is a WebView and all your important software is Electron because Apple refused industry inroads. There's a glimmer of hope for an "ideal" version of MacOS that cuts away the marketing cruft, trusts the user more and uses less ancient internals. It's just not what Apple is known for though, so I moved on.