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I don't buy any of the excuses, honestly. If the software can be that easily fooled by slightly broken white lines, it's not ready for release. That area of 101

I don't buy any of the excuses, honestly. If the software can be that easily fooled by slightly broken white lines, it's not ready for release. That area of 101 simply isn't that difficult to parse (for humans). If it can't deal with that, how can it driven in places where the roads are truly awful? Lots of places in the USA alone with much worse road conditions than anything CalTrans is responsible for. Also, there's a huge yellow and black chevron block visible in that picture that any human driver paying attention would have seen and easily avoided. Crosshatching is unnecessary if you're paying the least bit of attention to what's in front of you. What was the software's issue here? It is absolutely a problem with the Tesla software that it wasn't able to parse that area properly. Doesn't necessarily mean the human driver wasn't at fault.

shiftpgdn 3y ago
The crash arrester was missing when the Tesla crashed there, which is also part of the reason it was a fatal accident.
- ahahahahah 3y ago
  That is not true. It was not missing. Here's a photo showing it was clearly there: https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/model-x-crash.png https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.files.wordpress.com/2018/... I do think that it had already stopped at least one, maybe multiple crashes since it has been last replaced. The discussion here though is about visibility, and the attenuator would have been quite obvious there.
  - shiftpgdn 3y ago
    There are a dozen news articles that say it was missing, and even your picture looks like it's just the mount point, not the crash arresting system itself.
    - ahahahahah 3y ago
      I'm not sure I believe the claims of dozens of news articles that say it was missing, but it doesn't really matter. Here's a link to the ntsb report: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/HAR2001.pdf https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/... Page 2 (which is actually the 22nd page of the pdf) shows an image of the pre-crash state of the attenuator. It is present, but non-operational due to a previous crash. While that crash affected it's usefulness, it's visibility is only marginally reduced.

shiftpgdn 3y ago

The crash arrester was missing when the Tesla crashed there, which is also part of the reason it was a fatal accident.

ahahahahah 3y ago
That is not true. It was not missing. Here's a photo showing it was clearly there: https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/model-x-crash.png https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.files.wordpress.com/2018/... I do think that it had already stopped at least one, maybe multiple crashes since it has been last replaced. The discussion here though is about visibility, and the attenuator would have been quite obvious there.
- shiftpgdn 3y ago
  There are a dozen news articles that say it was missing, and even your picture looks like it's just the mount point, not the crash arresting system itself.
  - ahahahahah 3y ago
    I'm not sure I believe the claims of dozens of news articles that say it was missing, but it doesn't really matter. Here's a link to the ntsb report: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/HAR2001.pdf https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/... Page 2 (which is actually the 22nd page of the pdf) shows an image of the pre-crash state of the attenuator. It is present, but non-operational due to a previous crash. While that crash affected it's usefulness, it's visibility is only marginally reduced.