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Trump would have done so. It would have been impossible for him to keep a secret. His need to stroke his own ego wouldn’t allow it. When Trump ended his term w

Trump would have done so. It would have been impossible for him to keep a secret. His need to stroke his own ego wouldn’t allow it. When Trump ended his term without once mentioning aliens, that’s when I was certain all of this was hogwash. Are there maybe very advanced aircraft out there we should be aware of? Certainly. But it’s definitely not aliens without hard af evidence.

jdwithit 3y ago
This is a good point. Remember the time he revealed highly classified spy satellite capabilities by posting an extremely detailed photo of an Iranian nuclear site ON TWITTER [0]? He cannot help himself if there's a chance to show off. Although, the nice thing about conspiracy theories is you can always just layer on another explanation. Obviously the Deep State didn't trust Trump with this dangerous knowledge, so they kept him in the dark. Some things not even the President is cleared to know. Duh. 0: https://www.npr.org/2022/11/18/1137474748/trump-tweeted-an-image-from-a-spy-satellite-declassified-document-shows https://www.npr.org/2022/11/18/1137474748/trump-tweeted-an-i...
- 9dev 3y ago
  I’d usually side with you and Hanlon‘s razor, but in this case… not trusting Trump with anything sharper than a children’s toy knife sounds pretty reasonable, no? Is it really so far-fetched some agencies would do everything in their power to keep a low profile and The Menace out of their business?
  - shadowgovt 3y ago
    Indeed. For the conspiracy to hold water, one must assume (among other things) the President is out of the loop (like in the movie Independence Day) because otherwise, one has to assume too many Presidents that leaked intel on other topics exhibited the self control to hold these secrets close.
  - LapsangGuzzler 3y ago
    But why keep UFO intel away from him while letting him have highly-sensitive military intel that he could parley or leak? That’s the other part of this conspiracy that I don’t understand.
    - 9dev 3y ago
      Some might be better than others at guarding their stuff, maybe?
sneak 3y ago
Trump also would have weaponized things like FAA 702 against his political opponents and their staff, so it's likely that many in the IC simply refused to mention these possibilities to him, assuming he personally wouldn't take the initiative. There is also the possibility they simply told him no (especially given the keyhole/iranian missile thing) the idea that the CiC is the highest practical authority in the IC is, well, somewhat naive.
mrguyorama 3y ago
He explicitly voiced an intent to open up JFK and UFO conspiracy stuff as president, though his word has basically negative value. We should ask saudi arabia, they probably bought it from him if it exists. Elon has the connections to do that.
PaulRobinson 3y ago
Trump - like Johnson in the U.K. - likely did not have all the security clearances needed to access all “need to know” material. A specific allegation made in these hearings is that there is a conspiracy to hide what is known from much of the government. Why people think that would exclude a President thought to be compromised by the Kremlin, I really can’t understand.

jdwithit 3y ago

This is a good point. Remember the time he revealed highly classified spy satellite capabilities by posting an extremely detailed photo of an Iranian nuclear site ON TWITTER [0]? He cannot help himself if there's a chance to show off. Although, the nice thing about conspiracy theories is you can always just layer on another explanation. Obviously the Deep State didn't trust Trump with this dangerous knowledge, so they kept him in the dark. Some things not even the President is cleared to know. Duh. 0: https://www.npr.org/2022/11/18/1137474748/trump-tweeted-an-image-from-a-spy-satellite-declassified-document-shows https://www.npr.org/2022/11/18/1137474748/trump-tweeted-an-i...

9dev 3y ago
I’d usually side with you and Hanlon‘s razor, but in this case… not trusting Trump with anything sharper than a children’s toy knife sounds pretty reasonable, no? Is it really so far-fetched some agencies would do everything in their power to keep a low profile and The Menace out of their business?
- shadowgovt 3y ago
  Indeed. For the conspiracy to hold water, one must assume (among other things) the President is out of the loop (like in the movie Independence Day) because otherwise, one has to assume too many Presidents that leaked intel on other topics exhibited the self control to hold these secrets close.
- LapsangGuzzler 3y ago
  But why keep UFO intel away from him while letting him have highly-sensitive military intel that he could parley or leak? That’s the other part of this conspiracy that I don’t understand.
  - 9dev 3y ago
    Some might be better than others at guarding their stuff, maybe?

sneak 3y ago

Trump also would have weaponized things like FAA 702 against his political opponents and their staff, so it's likely that many in the IC simply refused to mention these possibilities to him, assuming he personally wouldn't take the initiative. There is also the possibility they simply told him no (especially given the keyhole/iranian missile thing) the idea that the CiC is the highest practical authority in the IC is, well, somewhat naive.

mrguyorama 3y ago

He explicitly voiced an intent to open up JFK and UFO conspiracy stuff as president, though his word has basically negative value. We should ask saudi arabia, they probably bought it from him if it exists. Elon has the connections to do that.

PaulRobinson 3y ago

Trump - like Johnson in the U.K. - likely did not have all the security clearances needed to access all “need to know” material. A specific allegation made in these hearings is that there is a conspiracy to hide what is known from much of the government. Why people think that would exclude a President thought to be compromised by the Kremlin, I really can’t understand.