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Alternative hail mary solutions with fewer systemic downsides, like assassinating fossil fuel lobbyists, seems preferable to sulfides in the stratosphere for no
by morelisp 3y ago
Alternative hail mary solutions with fewer systemic downsides, like assassinating fossil fuel lobbyists, seems preferable to sulfides in the stratosphere for now.
- ndsipa_pomu 3y agoHold on, are they before or after the billionaires for the guillotine?
- c1sc0 3y agoWhy not both?
- gottorf 3y agoSurely proponents of the guillotine must know that eventually the revolution eats its own?
- morelisp 3y agoWhile unfortunate, it still seems like ultimately a net positive (in at least several major moral calculi) even for the smallest ratchet down of the projections?
- vkou 3y agoBut the fear of revolution might make the surviving oligarchs in neighbouring polities think twice. 'Pour encourager les autres', and all that.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago"eventually the revolution eats its own?" All major nafions, France, Britain and US, famously obtained their freedomz through bloody revolutions.
- dotancohen 3y agoI am embarrassed to admit that I agree with this strategy. It's a real Trolley Problem, and our own children are currently in the path of the speeding trolley.
- morelisp 3y agoI don't think it's a good solution, it's just insane to me that we're going to do massive experimental geo-engineering before trying it.
- fnimick 3y agoOr the even simpler solution: raising gas taxes to discourage people from driving. Adding a tax on carbon pollution to make products reflect their actual cost. It's not hard, but anyone proposing "drive less" might as well be Hitler for how they're received by the general public.
- mrguyorama 3y agoRight, but you only need a couple crazies to put the fear of eco-terrorism into the heart of rich people. Except that just leads directly to really really oppressive facism, because plenty of people already want that for various reasons, and the public news already has no qualms about calling people throwing paint on a picture "eco-terrorists" while being utterly mum about the people actively plotting to harm politicians because they aren't facist enough. Politicians will happily jump at the opportunity to enact what they're actively trying to do.
- dotancohen 3y ago> raising gas taxes The politicians have proven to not provide an effective front. This would be the preferred front if politicians really would enact taxes, however, history shows otherwise.
- c1sc0 3y agoI’ve come to the following conclusion: scienctists have proven beyond doubt that anthropogenic climate change is real. Politicians and business interests have proven to be equally useless in addressing it. We know it’s a problem. Now it’s up to the engineers to solve it, or at least start implementing small-scale engineering-led solutions that go beyond “research”. It’s time to start building & figuring things out. Time to ignore the politicians and naysayers and just solve the damn problem.