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so i heard that java applets are similair vulnerability mess , so why not also bundle java with chrome? for net gain.

by majmun 15y ago

mayanksinghal 15y ago
Because Java applets are not that popular anymore so there isn't much of a need. Javascript graphic apps are still slow, lack the smoothness and an experienced developer community that would build new games/apps or port old ones. As sad as it may be to accept it, flash is more popular and fully featured than most alernatives. Who knows, Unity3D will substitute it for games, HTML5 Video /Sound for playing videos. While that happens, we will soon realize that Unity3D is another plugin-in-browser solution and might be (and I am just speculating here) vulnerable to issues similar to flash; while content providers will stop pushing video content because of lack of DRM like technology with HTML5 Videos. Please note that I am NOT supporting/rejecting any of the mentioned technologies; this is just a reply to a straw man argument.
- majmun 15y ago
  I don't know about java being unpopular according to this site (first i could find in google) -> http://www.statowl.com/plugin_overview.php http://www.statowl.com/plugin_overview.php it has 75% of market share, second to flash with 95%. if you have some other numbers I would like to hear it.
  - mayanksinghal 15y ago
    Having the capability of loading applets is, I consider, not to be the same as popularity of applets. I am unable to produce any citation that talks about popularity of applets except this SO thread: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/51390/where-did-all-the-java-applets-go http://stackoverflow.com/questions/51390/where-did-all-the-j... But the lack of applets is pretty apparent to me. I come across Flash almost hourly while my last few encounters with Java Applets were academic demos 2 years back.
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so i heard that java applets are similair vulnerability mess , so why not also bundle java with chrome? for net gain.

by majmun 15y ago

so i heard that java applets are similair vulnerability mess , so why not also bundle java with chrome? for net gain.

mayanksinghal 15y ago
Because Java applets are not that popular anymore so there isn't much of a need. Javascript graphic apps are still slow, lack the smoothness and an experienced developer community that would build new games/apps or port old ones. As sad as it may be to accept it, flash is more popular and fully featured than most alernatives. Who knows, Unity3D will substitute it for games, HTML5 Video /Sound for playing videos. While that happens, we will soon realize that Unity3D is another plugin-in-browser solution and might be (and I am just speculating here) vulnerable to issues similar to flash; while content providers will stop pushing video content because of lack of DRM like technology with HTML5 Videos. Please note that I am NOT supporting/rejecting any of the mentioned technologies; this is just a reply to a straw man argument.
- majmun 15y ago
  I don't know about java being unpopular according to this site (first i could find in google) -> http://www.statowl.com/plugin_overview.php http://www.statowl.com/plugin_overview.php it has 75% of market share, second to flash with 95%. if you have some other numbers I would like to hear it.
  - mayanksinghal 15y ago
    Having the capability of loading applets is, I consider, not to be the same as popularity of applets. I am unable to produce any citation that talks about popularity of applets except this SO thread: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/51390/where-did-all-the-java-applets-go http://stackoverflow.com/questions/51390/where-did-all-the-j... But the lack of applets is pretty apparent to me. I come across Flash almost hourly while my last few encounters with Java Applets were academic demos 2 years back.
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