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It's a logical fallacy to assume what they are saying is false because they might stand to profit from it. They might be biased but can't we investigate their c
by fantasticshower 3y ago
It's a logical fallacy to assume what they are saying is false because they might stand to profit from it. They might be biased but can't we investigate their claims independently?
- Zetice 3y agoNo, you can’t investigate their claims, as you are not a domain expert. They rely on you trying, however. And it is not a logical fallacy to disregard their argument entirely. I didn’t say they were wrong, I said they weren’t credible.
- fantasticshower 3y agoI guess we'll have to disagree about whether I'm capable of investigating their claims. Maybe you aren't and that's well and good for you. If you cannot investigate their claims, I don't think there's much more to discuss on this topic. Thanks for the lively discussion, Zetice!
- Zetice 3y agoThank you for being a live demonstration to anyone left reading this of how fools and their money are soon parted. Knowing your limits and knowing how bias creeps in are two skills you clearly lack. I hope nobody depends on you to make these kinds of decisions for them or in a way that impacts them.
- fantasticshower 3y agoFor anyone left reading, let this be a live demonstration of how it can be a waste of time to try to convince someone on the Internet their thinking is wrong. I'm pretty sure Zetice hasn't changed their mind on anything. I haven't really changed my mind on anything. I still think the things we linked to are valuable. For those of you who have filters that let the information through, I hope you find something useful. Read the paper Zetice linked to and see what questions you come up with. Or don't.
- Zetice 3y agoIf you value your safety, ignore every word this person has written. Their way of thinking leaves them extremely vulnerable. You will be worse off if you think like they do.
- fantasticshower 3y agoProbably best to just ignore everything we've both said (including this advice). There haven't been any published and cited papers about this thread yet so it's too early to tell whether there's anything of value here.
- Zetice 3y agoThere have absolutely been published and cited papers in this conversation (I cited one and then cited a book with literally hundreds more), the fact that you don't realize that should make it clear to anyone left reading this what's going on.
- fantasticshower 3y agoMore examples of you assuming the worst about me. I'm well aware of what you posted. My sarcasm didn't go through. I mean no one has written a published and cited paper about our conversation. Therefore no one should make any decisions based on our discussion.
- Zetice 3y agoIt wasn't good sarcasm. There are published and highly cited papers people can read to learn more about what I am saying (and how what you're saying is nonsense). I am stunned sometimes when I discover how completely unaware people are of how to apply critical thinking in the modern world. It's second nature to me, but conversations like these make it abundantly clear it's not a universal skill.
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