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So I haven't been keeping up on the aliens story, but I've seen a lot of posts on reddit about it lately. I know there is a hearing today. Does anyone have a

So I haven't been keeping up on the aliens story, but I've seen a lot of posts on reddit about it lately. I know there is a hearing today. Does anyone have a good summary that isn't a conspiracy website?

BiteCode_dev 3y ago
Reddit /r/alien is the best source. Pop in and just ask, they are friendly and can articulate a thought between 2 memes.
- jedberg 3y ago
  Yeah when I looked it seemed like a shitposting sub which is why I asked. :)
  - BiteCode_dev 3y ago
    It is also that, after all it's part of the fun.
burkaman 3y ago
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-hearing-congress-uap-takeaways-whistleblower-conference-david-grusch-2023/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-hearing-congress-uap-takeaw...
- jedberg 3y ago
  Thanks, that was a good summary, appreciate it.
stevezsa8 3y ago
I'm not up to date either, but it's probably along the lines of "there's aliens, you have to take my word for it". If mental illness or being mistaken only affected 1% of people... one percent of 7 billion is a big number.
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jcrawfordor 3y ago
I have attempted to provide an opinionated, but grounded in clearly-established fact, accounting of the 21st century UFO wave in this series: - https://computer.rip/2023-02-14-something-up-there-pt-I.html https://computer.rip/2023-02-14-something-up-there-pt-I.html - https://computer.rip/2023-02-17-something-up-there-pt-II.html https://computer.rip/2023-02-17-something-up-there-pt-II.htm... - https://computer.rip/2023-06-07-something-up-there---nasa-and-uaps.html https://computer.rip/2023-06-07-something-up-there---nasa-an... It should be understood that I am advocating for a particular interpretation of events that I think is most likely---and is markedly less spectacular than what you typically see in the media. I also haven't really taken on Grusch yet but will probably do so soon. I've been hesitant to write on Grusch because I do not personally feel him to be credible, but only time will tell. there are far too many similarities between Grusch, Bob Lazar, and Luis Elizondo, which clearly illustrates the need to be skeptical of people with fantastical claims and supposed intelligence backgrounds. Like Lazar before him, Grusch seems to be positioning his claims in such a way that they are not verifiable. It will likely take a couple of years for journalists to provide any serious review of Grusch's claims, if they ever do. These congressional hearings are far more show than substance and were never likely to produce any new information, or to seriously evaluate Grusch's credibility. We can hope that something will emerge in coming months that will offer a more definitive appraisal of Grusch but, in the meantime, I think it's by far safest to assume that he is another crank in a well-established line of cranks who have (claimed to) emerge from the shadows of the military to tell us that the government definitely has aliens hidden somewhere. The main difference is that the media is taking Grusch far more seriously than they have taken previous instances, but I think that's an artifact of specific events right now (e.g. the AARO) and not really related to the substance of Grusch or his claims. I don't think the congressional hearings should be interpreted as anything more than a knee-jerk reaction to the media situation, perhaps amplified by current political factors.
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BiteCode_dev 3y ago

Reddit /r/alien is the best source. Pop in and just ask, they are friendly and can articulate a thought between 2 memes.

jedberg 3y ago
Yeah when I looked it seemed like a shitposting sub which is why I asked. :)
- BiteCode_dev 3y ago
  It is also that, after all it's part of the fun.

burkaman 3y ago

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-hearing-congress-uap-takeaways-whistleblower-conference-david-grusch-2023/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-hearing-congress-uap-takeaw...

jedberg 3y ago
Thanks, that was a good summary, appreciate it.

stevezsa8 3y ago

I'm not up to date either, but it's probably along the lines of "there's aliens, you have to take my word for it". If mental illness or being mistaken only affected 1% of people... one percent of 7 billion is a big number.

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jcrawfordor 3y ago

I have attempted to provide an opinionated, but grounded in clearly-established fact, accounting of the 21st century UFO wave in this series: - https://computer.rip/2023-02-14-something-up-there-pt-I.html https://computer.rip/2023-02-14-something-up-there-pt-I.html - https://computer.rip/2023-02-17-something-up-there-pt-II.html https://computer.rip/2023-02-17-something-up-there-pt-II.htm... - https://computer.rip/2023-06-07-something-up-there---nasa-and-uaps.html https://computer.rip/2023-06-07-something-up-there---nasa-an... It should be understood that I am advocating for a particular interpretation of events that I think is most likely---and is markedly less spectacular than what you typically see in the media. I also haven't really taken on Grusch yet but will probably do so soon. I've been hesitant to write on Grusch because I do not personally feel him to be credible, but only time will tell. there are far too many similarities between Grusch, Bob Lazar, and Luis Elizondo, which clearly illustrates the need to be skeptical of people with fantastical claims and supposed intelligence backgrounds. Like Lazar before him, Grusch seems to be positioning his claims in such a way that they are not verifiable. It will likely take a couple of years for journalists to provide any serious review of Grusch's claims, if they ever do. These congressional hearings are far more show than substance and were never likely to produce any new information, or to seriously evaluate Grusch's credibility. We can hope that something will emerge in coming months that will offer a more definitive appraisal of Grusch but, in the meantime, I think it's by far safest to assume that he is another crank in a well-established line of cranks who have (claimed to) emerge from the shadows of the military to tell us that the government definitely has aliens hidden somewhere. The main difference is that the media is taking Grusch far more seriously than they have taken previous instances, but I think that's an artifact of specific events right now (e.g. the AARO) and not really related to the substance of Grusch or his claims. I don't think the congressional hearings should be interpreted as anything more than a knee-jerk reaction to the media situation, perhaps amplified by current political factors.

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