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For additional context, the 14N (Air Force Intelligence officers) community broadly does not support this person or his claims. Take that for what it's worth
by AndrewKemendo 3y ago
For additional context, the 14N (Air Force Intelligence officers) community broadly does not support this person or his claims.
Take that for what it's worth
- caesil 3y agoCan you explain why?
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoWell, for one, he seems to be pretty liberal with the truth in a way that many spooks are good at. For example he claims: > at the GS-15 civilian level, which is the military equivalent of a full-bird colonel I was previously both a Major and later NH-IV (which in my case had equivalency with GS-15-10)and the only people making this claim would be ones that want to inflate their own importance. They are completely different legally and fall under different legal codes - namely the GS system is not subject to UCMJ nor can they make certain legal decisions that an O6 can make and has a completely different promotion and evaluation. He wants to portray himself as a battle hardened commander when he’s just another run of the mill PowerPoint slinger.
- wil421 3y agoCan’t say for that for the intelligence community, but UFO people on podcasts claim his claims are being fed to him and are likely psyops misdirections. He also has no direct knowledge it’s all stuff he heard from other people in the government.
- JohnBooty 3y agoWell, I've always thought that cloaking your secret government program in kooky-sounding UFO stuff might be a great way to keep your program hidden. Anybody uncovering evidence of your program will likely not be taken seriously, because UFOs. And certainly, "a government lies and has secrets" ranks well above "aliens are in our skies" in terms of likelyhood. Occam's Razor and all. But, I don't know if this sounds like a psyop to me. One, Grush says that many (dozens?) of people (whose names he has provided to the whistleblower office) spoke to him about these alleged programs. Dozens or people push this psyop... why? The government wants to convince people that it is... even shadier than we thoughts? Or is this some thing they cooked up to ensnare Grusch specifically? Is our government secretive and scary? Oh yeah. But if this is a psyop then I don't see how it helps them.
- yuvadam 3y agoWhy would they, if they have no knowledge of material he's seen and is testifying about?
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoBecause he hasn’t demonstrated anything that indicates that he’s not just purely fabricating all of this for publicity
- yuvadam 3y agoHow would he go about that in an unclassified setting?
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoThe same way every other whistleblower who has been successful in the past has done it: providing direct incontrovertible evidence to the public
- yuvadam 3y agoThis guy went through all the appropriate channels and is still facing retaliation. Or are you expecting him to just pull a Snowden, leak everything and be charged with espionage?
- coding123 3y agoIt's not worth much because if there is a community that doesn't know about it, then of course they won't support it. If they do know about it, and haven't already disclosed it, then of course they won't support it. So basically "take that for what it's worth" in both cases is 0.
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoI happen to know that there’s a teapot on the other side of the moon. You just can’t see it. Now it’s on you to disprove my teapot theory. In case you didn't pick it up, the evidentiary proof is on the claimant not the interrogator.
- potsandpans 3y agoWe get it, you're extremely intelligent.