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Sony is a company, a corporation, a conglomerate, a machine to generate wealth for shareholders, whatever you wanna call it. Not a human. Decisions humans make

Sony is a company, a corporation, a conglomerate, a machine to generate wealth for shareholders, whatever you wanna call it. Not a human. Decisions humans make on behalf of the company still lead to company != human.

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SllX 3y ago
Sony Group Corporation is a kabushiki gaisha under Japanese law, which translates roughly to “stock corporation”, which is a legal entity representing its owners (individuals and institutional investors, but if you follow the trails of paperwork all the way to the end, it’s all individuals) in the marketplace. The arrangement is complex, but it is very much all people. Loads of them, as employees, management, executive management, owners and beneficiaries. Your point is taken that the entity is not literally human—sentient paperwork is a joke but it’s actually not too far off—but your statement is still dehumanizing to actual people. The actions people take acting as representatives of the company are still human actions with human incentives behind them. I was hoping you would take the hint rather than the full explanation.
- polygamous_bat 3y ago
  > if you follow the trails of paperwork all the way to the end, it’s all individuals And if you follow the textbooks all the way, you and I are just electron, proton, neutron, same in the stars and in piles of garbage. The intent behind the corporation/individual matters as much, and otherwise it's just as meaningless to say as a response to GP.
  - SllX 3y ago
    OP’s original statement was that got to me was as follows: > They're not human, it doesn't matter. What this and your textbook example share in common is a lack of respect for the human factor. Sony Group Corporation may not be literally human, but to say “they’re not human” is to dehumanize the people the Sony Group Corporation represents because that’s what the actual function of a corporation is: to act as a legal front representing people. I don’t care who anybody boycotts, but I think at a minimum, we can you know, not dehumanize people even if you dislike them.

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SllX 3y ago

Sony Group Corporation is a kabushiki gaisha under Japanese law, which translates roughly to “stock corporation”, which is a legal entity representing its owners (individuals and institutional investors, but if you follow the trails of paperwork all the way to the end, it’s all individuals) in the marketplace. The arrangement is complex, but it is very much all people. Loads of them, as employees, management, executive management, owners and beneficiaries. Your point is taken that the entity is not literally human—sentient paperwork is a joke but it’s actually not too far off—but your statement is still dehumanizing to actual people. The actions people take acting as representatives of the company are still human actions with human incentives behind them. I was hoping you would take the hint rather than the full explanation.

polygamous_bat 3y ago
> if you follow the trails of paperwork all the way to the end, it’s all individuals And if you follow the textbooks all the way, you and I are just electron, proton, neutron, same in the stars and in piles of garbage. The intent behind the corporation/individual matters as much, and otherwise it's just as meaningless to say as a response to GP.
- SllX 3y ago
  OP’s original statement was that got to me was as follows: > They're not human, it doesn't matter. What this and your textbook example share in common is a lack of respect for the human factor. Sony Group Corporation may not be literally human, but to say “they’re not human” is to dehumanize the people the Sony Group Corporation represents because that’s what the actual function of a corporation is: to act as a legal front representing people. I don’t care who anybody boycotts, but I think at a minimum, we can you know, not dehumanize people even if you dislike them.