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Dear Aliens

50 points by thatgerhard 3y ago

ccity88 3y ago
I know this is a joke, but can we for a second take a step back to marvel at how we're now watching US Congressional hearings about UAP's, where the word "Aliens" and "Extra-terrestrial life" was mentioned several times? I feel like I'm living through the beginning of a sci-fi movie. More to the point, why is it always people in the US that have credible or semi credible (or for that matter ANY) evidence of UAP's, UFO's etc? The earth is a big place, why is it always the US they choose to visit? Is Botswana not good enough? Is Europe not technologically advanced enough? Does South America not send the right message?
- scandox 3y ago
  They're just very open-minded in the US.
- imdsm 3y ago
  Life feels more and more like a Sci Fi movie. Also consider that the US is one of the few nations with such advanced sensor technology, and also the one that likely flies the most training runs, patrols etc. The hearing today, especially how much we didn't hear, was fascinating. "Non-human" rather than "extra-terrestrial", I feel, was said a few times to try and tell us something. Perhaps they don't come from far away. Perhaps they come from outside, or perhaps they are from here. When did they begin to show up? What if nuclear blasts had an effect outside what we knew? So many questions.
  - OfSanguineFire 3y ago
    > What if nuclear blasts had an effect outside what we knew? Wait, isn’t this the plot of Twin Peaks: The Return? The news today is reporting that it was David Grusch, already not taken very seriously, who testified on the presence of “non-human” biological material found at crash sites. You know what that claim is compatible with? Putting an ape into an advanced drone in order to test the effect of its flight on life. You know, just like was done in the 1950s for space research.
  - akomtu 3y ago
    If I were to make a sci-fi plot, I'd say the first nuclear blast in a US desert (Mohave?) spooked the aliens because they happen to live somewhere around that desert, in a "different dimension" so to say. To them the blast was a spike of hard radiation of unexplained origin. After digging into it, they've realized the relationship with us (to their astonishment) and developed an entire new branch of science about cross-dimension space travel. Now they can regularly send equivalents of bathyscaphes to our plane and observe us. They don't space travel as we imagine it, they rather submerge. The bathyscaphes protect their bodies from instant disintegration, but they already have a prototype of a space-suit that will let them leave the bathyscaphe. In the meantime they've been dropping some artifacts to steer our civilization in the desired direction. They really want us to develop an advanced machine civilization because they have means of directly connecting to a certain type of machines. As for their goals, it's the same goals that we have for Mars or Moon: explore and colonize because we can, perhaps find some minerals.
- quacked 3y ago
  > The earth is a big place, why is it always the US they choose to visit? Since almost all credible English-speaking UFO sightings (i.e. someone actually saw something strange in the sky and isn't delusional or lying) have been US military hardware, it stands to reason that the US has been the site of a lot of sightings reported in English. The only other really obvious places where you might see this kind of stuff is rural Russia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, or China, and I don't know what kind of things the locals have been primed to believe or say when they see strange lights in the sky.
  - RajT88 3y ago
    There's been a lot in Brazil, actually. Brazil, like the US, has a lot of land and a lot of people.
- jedberg 3y ago
  > More to the point, why is it always people in the US that have credible or semi credible (or for that matter ANY) evidence of UAP's, UFO's etc? The US is one of the only countries with the resources to explore such things? Or maybe because the US is the fourth largest country by land mass, and the only bigger ones are Russia, China, and Canada. China probably would keep it a secret, as would Russia. And we would probably process Canada's. And in fact you do hear about stuff over Russia all the time.
- tobrien6 3y ago
  UAP sightings and encounters are a global phenomenon, documented by civilians and military/government individuals and declassified documents going back decades. If you begin even cursory research into the topic, you'll discover as much.
  - shiny 3y ago
    Ya, one of my favorite cases actually occurred next door to Botswana: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_School_UFO_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_School_UFO_incident
- sschueller 3y ago
  Exactly but when you bring this up you get attacked. Sure there might be extraterrestrial life and no one is doubting this possibility but that they would focus on only the US and only get seen I the US is quite self centered. Also don't forget how would we approach another planet if we had the tech to go there. The life forms on that planet may appear to us a monkeys or even ants and we would probably just ignore them.
  - suby 3y ago
    > but that they would focus on only the US and only get seen I the US is quite self centered. Because it isn't true. I started paying attention to UFO's after the 2017 new york times article on the subject, and yes, there is a perception that it's a US only phenomenon, but it's a misconception. I do not have a link to point you to, but UFO's are being reported world wide, and there have been some famous cases outside the US (as far as UFO cases get famous) such as the school, Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki Ariel School UFO incident.
  - junaru 3y ago
    > when you bring this up you get attacked Good, ignorance should not be rewarded. Start by googling COMETA report, Rendlesham, Ariel or the flavour of the month - Varginha.
    - mistermann 3y ago
      Is a lack of an attack a reward?
- OscarCunningham 3y ago
  The US has the most people travelling long empty roads and getting Highway Hypnosis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_hypnosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_hypnosis
- boveus 3y ago
  I assume there is some particular combination of factors at play here: The US has a very advanced military and intelligence apparatus which operates globally. The US has an enormous area that it operates in domestically (large areas of both the Pacific and Atlantic oceans). The US also has a relatively open culture and emphasizes free speech. When you look at all of these factors it seems that by having all of them it makes it a lot more likely for people to detect UAPs and then talk about them. The other thing that might be at play here is that, as an American, I have no idea what a credible news source would be from Botswana and it is unlikely to be in English even if I would consume it in the first place.
  - classified 3y ago
    If only we had known this earlier, we would never have crashed our spacecraft in Botswana!
- SkyMarshal 3y ago
  Assuming this isn’t just a big psyop trying to scare US adversaries, and that UFO’s are real… the US was the first to detonate nukes in 1945, on its own territory, which might explain some of the UFO interest. Maybe the UFO’s were investigating how scientifically and technologically advanced humanity was becoming, and naturally focused on nuclear tech as a leading indicator. Also, the 1936 Berlin Olympics TV broadcast was the first human signal capable of detection from distant space, and might have alerted them to humanity. Travel time of the broadcast plus travel time of UFO’s to Earth (assuming they have lightspeed capability) might have resulted in them arriving right around when nukes were invented (if they’re from, say, Alpha Centauri which is 4 light-years away). Finally, the US and Europe have free press where things like this are more likely to be publicly reported than in say, the USSR back in the day, or China under the CCP. Which, in conjunction with the above, may explain sightings maps like this one, where sightings are most frequent in the US and secondarily in Europe: https://updb.app/map?zoom=1.00&lon=149.0917&lat=37.3003 https://updb.app/map?zoom=1.00&lon=149.0917&lat=37.3003 Also, if you search number of reports by date ranges, and choose an arbitrary cutoff at, say, 1944, look at what you get (I would need to see all this data graphed to see when the real inflection point to cut at is, so I'm just guessing here): 1-1943: 1566 sightings reports 1944-2023: 294,641 sightings reports Two orders of magnitude more sightings reports in the 80yrs since nukes were invented, vs in the almost two millennia previously. Obviously we also had more robust and technologically advanced media in the latter time frame, so that contributes much to the discrepancy. But still a huge discrepancy.
- dingnuts 3y ago
  It's not just the US, but the intelligence agencies who for some reason are the people that ET has chosen to reach out to and have the sole evidence and knowledge of the extraterrestrials. You know, the people who lied to the world about the presence of WMDs in Iraq 15 years ago. They have received communication with ET nobody else has and they have evidence if we just trust them. Yeah. Sure.
- systems_glitch 3y ago
  They put mayonnaise on pizza in Botswana!
- nomel 3y ago
  > The earth is a big place, why is it always the US they choose to visit? From what I saw, in the interviews, the claim is that we are not the only country.
- dleslie 3y ago
  > More to the point, why is it always people in the US that have credible or semi credible (or for that matter ANY) evidence of UAP's, UFO's etc? That's selection bias from our media reporting on it. MUFON has tracked sightings from all over the world. https://mufon.com/ https://mufon.com/
- programmarchy 3y ago
  Being a kook and a congressman (or intelligence officer) are not mutually exclusive. I haven't really seen anything credible, have you? It's always some ambiguous statement like "I've been told by a high ranking official...", "It appears to be not of this planet..." which puts my bullshit detector on full blast.
bovermyer 3y ago
If sentient aliens are out there watching us, I would not be surprised if they're gathered around their equivalent of a TV with their equivalent of strong beer, watching our world and making bets on whether we survive this century or not.
- rwky 3y ago
  I suppose that depends on your definition of survive but I'll bet one Ningi [1] we don't. https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Triganic_Pu https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Triganic_Pu
- SkyMarshal 3y ago
  We're like a giant Truman Show to them, except we're all the stars of it.
  - rescripting 3y ago
    How egocentric. Its just as likely, maybe more, that an interplanetary species would view us as we view ants. Do you watch locusts multiply and consume all before them then zoom in and watch the drama unfold between the individuals in the swarm? Or do you stand back and think "stupid things, they'll be hungry soon enough".
    - SkyMarshal 3y ago
      Maybe you haven't seen the movie, but the guy being observed wasn't egotistical, everyone around him manipulating and observing him was.
      - rescripting 3y ago
        I was thinking more about the implication that we'd be worth going to all the trouble of observing.
jedberg 3y ago
So I haven't been keeping up on the aliens story, but I've seen a lot of posts on reddit about it lately. I know there is a hearing today. Does anyone have a good summary that isn't a conspiracy website?
- BiteCode_dev 3y ago
  Reddit /r/alien is the best source. Pop in and just ask, they are friendly and can articulate a thought between 2 memes.
  - jedberg 3y ago
    Yeah when I looked it seemed like a shitposting sub which is why I asked. :)
    - BiteCode_dev 3y ago
      It is also that, after all it's part of the fun.
- burkaman 3y ago
  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-hearing-congress-uap-takeaways-whistleblower-conference-david-grusch-2023/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-hearing-congress-uap-takeaw...
  - jedberg 3y ago
    Thanks, that was a good summary, appreciate it.
- stevezsa8 3y ago
  I'm not up to date either, but it's probably along the lines of "there's aliens, you have to take my word for it". If mental illness or being mistaken only affected 1% of people... one percent of 7 billion is a big number.
- deleted 3y ago
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Loveaway 3y ago
Dear human. We know. All of it. Always have. The things you are concerned about are not yours to solve. Why are you asking for an energy source, do you not have enough energy, how are you writing your blog? Don't be silly. You want better propulsion fuels? That is what you came here to ask for? Or maybe your problem is that you have none?
- DoreenMichele 3y ago
  Dear humans, Go with passive solar design and stop looking for the holy grail of clean energy. The truth is we are shopping for a new home because we long ago ruined our environment like you are doing to yours.
- josefresco 3y ago
  > Why are you asking for an energy source, do you not have enough energy, how are you writing your blog? FTA: A lot of out current problems revolve around fuel and the pollution associated with it.
- solardev 3y ago
  We gave them nuclear fission and they wrote what with it?!
RajT88 3y ago
I hope he shares his analysis of his server logs!
jadbox 3y ago
> "Have we evolved naturally or was there intervention as a start or somewhere along the way?" I loved the letter, but I just quibble on this sentence from my own perspective. It seems to me that concepts like "natural" and "intervention" are almost meaningless to ask. What is "unnatural" to an alien? What kind of matter/energy system can be explained as an "intervention"?
- zoba 3y ago
  Perhaps: "Did an agent with intent, from outside the otherwise unaffected progression of our earthly sphere, influence the course of history?"
  - jadbox 3y ago
    I'm not sure. Can we define alien spores as an agent with intent? Perhaps the sun can be viewed as an agent with intent since it displays an inherent ability to influence the solar system. The universe is swimming in alien interactions.
soneca 3y ago
If the aliens wanted to communicate with all humanity, which channel do you think they should use? Assuming they know all about humanity, the way we communicate, all the languages, etc
- guerilla_prgrmr 3y ago
  Probably crop fields because its funny
- solardev 3y ago
  Buy all our world leaders and make them say stupid shit and shoot things at each other for a few centuries. Then replace them all with some social website and gradually announce their presence and act like saviors. We're ready now, please come!!
- stevezsa8 3y ago
  Maybe send down a landing party or two and hang out with humans for a bit incognito. Knowing about us isn't the same as interacting with us. At least that's what I think. As for actual communication, it's a tough question. My first contact education is based on TV and movies. Hopefully they have a procedure based on actual previous first contact experiences.
- echelon 3y ago
  They would simulate us in a high fidelity simulation indistinguishable from reality [1] in order to test how to interact. [1] Like the one perhaps you're in right now.
detritus 3y ago
If aliens do exist and are in our vicinity, they absolutely have access to every digitally-transcribed mote of data or communication, should they wish. I kind of view this as a bit of a problem: If it is so, presumably they have orders of magnitude more capacity for control and amendment and could have very plausibly been editing every last bit of digital data we've relied upon over the last 70+ years. They could well have been re-writing our entire view of the universe. We need an order of Analogue Eternally-watching Monks we rely upon to fact-check basic assumptions using entirely non-digital means. Which could get complicated.
- idiotsecant 3y ago
  Huh? You think they're literally editing radio broadcasts, network transmissions, printed media, etc? And that nobody has noticed? I think your tinfoil is leaking!
  - detritus 3y ago
    I'm mooting it as a possibility, tin foil or not. I more meant they could be editing transmissions and inputs from all the digitally-based means we have analysing the universe - including Voyager, telescopes, gravity wave detectors... CERN. It was an idea I pondered trying to turn into a short story, but I'm not a writer, so.. here we are.
    - vimax 3y ago
      Ready the short story True Names by Vernor Vinge. My favorite short story . https://ia801004.us.archive.org/0/items/truenamesvingevernor/True%20Names%20-%20Vinge%2C%20Vernor.pdf https://ia801004.us.archive.org/0/items/truenamesvingevernor... His later book A Deepness in the Sky also revolves around the same ideas.
      - BatFastard 3y ago
        That was an awesome story! I think I had read it 40 years ago, but in an age where AGI is close to real.... its thought provoking.
LandR 3y ago
I want to know how they apparently have advanced tech that allows them to travel the vast distances of space, and if certain people are to be believed, have crafts capable of astonishing maneuvers we can't match... Yet, they crash all the time...
- Kye 3y ago
  It might be that the feats we see are at the leading edge of their technology and that's why they crash. They might be reaching out to say hello at great risk to themselves. Earth is full of humans who would take the same kind of risk in the other direction.
  - LandR 3y ago
    Surely though, if you can take travel near light speed you need a detection and maneuverability system so advanced, because any impact is game over, that pottering around at non relativistic speeds should be an absolute doddle.
    - solardev 3y ago
      Maybe they just send a few trillion and hope a few make it
    - Kye 3y ago
      Have you ever seen those videos of someone getting their first fast car and immediately planting it in a building? Things that are made to handle well going very fast don't necessarily do well going very slow. It could be they normally depend on some guidance infrastructure for intra-stellar travel where they normally operate that isn't present here.
    - notaustinpowers 3y ago
      We have no idea how they could be traveling through space. They could be using something like the alcubierre drive which wouldn't be affecting by dust or microscopic things in space puncturing the craft, they'd just get warped around the craft with the rest of space. Plus, space is so vast and lightspeed is so slow, I can't imagine plotting a trajectory to avoid stars/planets would be at all difficult for a society so advanced.
sneak 3y ago
> However, we’re now in a situation where the total number of people on Earth, combined with our current economic systems, is seriously straining our resources and affecting the quality of life for most people. This is true, but not in the way they mean it - it is affecting the quality of life way upward for most people.
paulette449 3y ago
This may sound weird but I really don't understand the desire to seek and make contact with alien species. Humanity is the alpha species on Earth and we slaughter billions of animals a year to feed our appetites, regardless of the animal's relative intelligence or ability to provide companionship to us. Why do we expect a more intelligent alien species to look upon us any differently to how we look upon a cow/sheep/horse/dog/lobster/octopus and every other species eaten by humanity.
- ryandvm 3y ago
  The likelihood that life on Earth will be compatible with the digestive processes of an independently evolved life form are exceedingly small. They probably wouldn't look at us like potential food in the same way that we try to eat just about everything, so I don't think we have to worry about becoming livestock. And if they're capable of interstellar transport, they will have absolutely no need for our resources as they'll already have full mastery of energy/matter at their disposal. No, if alien life finds us, they're primarily going to evaluate us as potential threats. Quite like how we treat common pests. Do we have the potential to threaten their convenience? If so, they may eliminate us. If not, the worst we have to fear is probably getting wrapped up in some interstellar pet market...
- MattPalmer1086 3y ago
  There is no need to assume they are more intelligent. They would probably be differently intelligent. You are right that a more advanced species (although not necessarily more intelligent) could be an existential threat.
MongoTheMad 3y ago
What if the UAPs are all failed time travel devices?
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sschueller 3y ago
What I would like to see at these hearings aren't airmen or military officials giving their "opinion". Instead I would like engineers from Raytheon and Northrop Grumman etc. who build these sensors system to tell congress what they are seeing. From a duck flying at mach whatever over the surface of the sea due to parallax to the triangular night vision system iris. Explain to the laymen who think they saw an UFO what they really saw.
zuuuuuh 3y ago
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dangitnotagain 3y ago
Offering of your gratuitous craze. These “Aliens” who have been hanging out in under and around Earth for 10,000 years would like for me to share a short account I have written. Treachery divides us, friends. The Truth is Man is savage and beastial, when not meddlesome scamps. The consequences and when these catch up to us are the real mystery. An account of the “greys” (and the secret war among Man.) https://pastebin.com/42dTemNe https://pastebin.com/42dTemNe
HocusLocus 3y ago
Another earnest attempt to contact that was broadcast on Earth radio in 1976. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teBV0EoJJY8&t=6s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teBV0EoJJY8&t=6s God I miss her, taken so young.

50 points by thatgerhard 3y ago

I know this is a joke, but can we for a second take a step back to marvel at how we're now watching US Congressional hearings about UAP's, where the word "Aliens" and "Extra-terrestrial life" was mentioned several times? I feel like I'm living through the beginning of a sci-fi movie. More to the point, why is it always people in the US that have credible or semi credible (or for that matter ANY) evidence of UAP's, UFO's etc? The earth is a big place, why is it always the US they choose to visit? Is Botswana not good enough? Is Europe not technologically advanced enough? Does South America not send the right message?

scandox 3y ago
They're just very open-minded in the US.
imdsm 3y ago
Life feels more and more like a Sci Fi movie. Also consider that the US is one of the few nations with such advanced sensor technology, and also the one that likely flies the most training runs, patrols etc. The hearing today, especially how much we didn't hear, was fascinating. "Non-human" rather than "extra-terrestrial", I feel, was said a few times to try and tell us something. Perhaps they don't come from far away. Perhaps they come from outside, or perhaps they are from here. When did they begin to show up? What if nuclear blasts had an effect outside what we knew? So many questions.
- OfSanguineFire 3y ago
  > What if nuclear blasts had an effect outside what we knew? Wait, isn’t this the plot of Twin Peaks: The Return? The news today is reporting that it was David Grusch, already not taken very seriously, who testified on the presence of “non-human” biological material found at crash sites. You know what that claim is compatible with? Putting an ape into an advanced drone in order to test the effect of its flight on life. You know, just like was done in the 1950s for space research.
- akomtu 3y ago
  If I were to make a sci-fi plot, I'd say the first nuclear blast in a US desert (Mohave?) spooked the aliens because they happen to live somewhere around that desert, in a "different dimension" so to say. To them the blast was a spike of hard radiation of unexplained origin. After digging into it, they've realized the relationship with us (to their astonishment) and developed an entire new branch of science about cross-dimension space travel. Now they can regularly send equivalents of bathyscaphes to our plane and observe us. They don't space travel as we imagine it, they rather submerge. The bathyscaphes protect their bodies from instant disintegration, but they already have a prototype of a space-suit that will let them leave the bathyscaphe. In the meantime they've been dropping some artifacts to steer our civilization in the desired direction. They really want us to develop an advanced machine civilization because they have means of directly connecting to a certain type of machines. As for their goals, it's the same goals that we have for Mars or Moon: explore and colonize because we can, perhaps find some minerals.
quacked 3y ago
> The earth is a big place, why is it always the US they choose to visit? Since almost all credible English-speaking UFO sightings (i.e. someone actually saw something strange in the sky and isn't delusional or lying) have been US military hardware, it stands to reason that the US has been the site of a lot of sightings reported in English. The only other really obvious places where you might see this kind of stuff is rural Russia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, or China, and I don't know what kind of things the locals have been primed to believe or say when they see strange lights in the sky.
- RajT88 3y ago
  There's been a lot in Brazil, actually. Brazil, like the US, has a lot of land and a lot of people.
jedberg 3y ago
> More to the point, why is it always people in the US that have credible or semi credible (or for that matter ANY) evidence of UAP's, UFO's etc? The US is one of the only countries with the resources to explore such things? Or maybe because the US is the fourth largest country by land mass, and the only bigger ones are Russia, China, and Canada. China probably would keep it a secret, as would Russia. And we would probably process Canada's. And in fact you do hear about stuff over Russia all the time.
tobrien6 3y ago
UAP sightings and encounters are a global phenomenon, documented by civilians and military/government individuals and declassified documents going back decades. If you begin even cursory research into the topic, you'll discover as much.
- shiny 3y ago
  Ya, one of my favorite cases actually occurred next door to Botswana: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_School_UFO_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_School_UFO_incident
sschueller 3y ago
Exactly but when you bring this up you get attacked. Sure there might be extraterrestrial life and no one is doubting this possibility but that they would focus on only the US and only get seen I the US is quite self centered. Also don't forget how would we approach another planet if we had the tech to go there. The life forms on that planet may appear to us a monkeys or even ants and we would probably just ignore them.
- suby 3y ago
  > but that they would focus on only the US and only get seen I the US is quite self centered. Because it isn't true. I started paying attention to UFO's after the 2017 new york times article on the subject, and yes, there is a perception that it's a US only phenomenon, but it's a misconception. I do not have a link to point you to, but UFO's are being reported world wide, and there have been some famous cases outside the US (as far as UFO cases get famous) such as the school, Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki Ariel School UFO incident.
- junaru 3y ago
  > when you bring this up you get attacked Good, ignorance should not be rewarded. Start by googling COMETA report, Rendlesham, Ariel or the flavour of the month - Varginha.
  - mistermann 3y ago
    Is a lack of an attack a reward?
OscarCunningham 3y ago
The US has the most people travelling long empty roads and getting Highway Hypnosis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_hypnosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_hypnosis
boveus 3y ago
I assume there is some particular combination of factors at play here: The US has a very advanced military and intelligence apparatus which operates globally. The US has an enormous area that it operates in domestically (large areas of both the Pacific and Atlantic oceans). The US also has a relatively open culture and emphasizes free speech. When you look at all of these factors it seems that by having all of them it makes it a lot more likely for people to detect UAPs and then talk about them. The other thing that might be at play here is that, as an American, I have no idea what a credible news source would be from Botswana and it is unlikely to be in English even if I would consume it in the first place.
- classified 3y ago
  If only we had known this earlier, we would never have crashed our spacecraft in Botswana!
SkyMarshal 3y ago
Assuming this isn’t just a big psyop trying to scare US adversaries, and that UFO’s are real… the US was the first to detonate nukes in 1945, on its own territory, which might explain some of the UFO interest. Maybe the UFO’s were investigating how scientifically and technologically advanced humanity was becoming, and naturally focused on nuclear tech as a leading indicator. Also, the 1936 Berlin Olympics TV broadcast was the first human signal capable of detection from distant space, and might have alerted them to humanity. Travel time of the broadcast plus travel time of UFO’s to Earth (assuming they have lightspeed capability) might have resulted in them arriving right around when nukes were invented (if they’re from, say, Alpha Centauri which is 4 light-years away). Finally, the US and Europe have free press where things like this are more likely to be publicly reported than in say, the USSR back in the day, or China under the CCP. Which, in conjunction with the above, may explain sightings maps like this one, where sightings are most frequent in the US and secondarily in Europe: https://updb.app/map?zoom=1.00&lon=149.0917&lat=37.3003 https://updb.app/map?zoom=1.00&lon=149.0917&lat=37.3003 Also, if you search number of reports by date ranges, and choose an arbitrary cutoff at, say, 1944, look at what you get (I would need to see all this data graphed to see when the real inflection point to cut at is, so I'm just guessing here): 1-1943: 1566 sightings reports 1944-2023: 294,641 sightings reports Two orders of magnitude more sightings reports in the 80yrs since nukes were invented, vs in the almost two millennia previously. Obviously we also had more robust and technologically advanced media in the latter time frame, so that contributes much to the discrepancy. But still a huge discrepancy.
dingnuts 3y ago
It's not just the US, but the intelligence agencies who for some reason are the people that ET has chosen to reach out to and have the sole evidence and knowledge of the extraterrestrials. You know, the people who lied to the world about the presence of WMDs in Iraq 15 years ago. They have received communication with ET nobody else has and they have evidence if we just trust them. Yeah. Sure.
systems_glitch 3y ago
They put mayonnaise on pizza in Botswana!
nomel 3y ago
> The earth is a big place, why is it always the US they choose to visit? From what I saw, in the interviews, the claim is that we are not the only country.
dleslie 3y ago
> More to the point, why is it always people in the US that have credible or semi credible (or for that matter ANY) evidence of UAP's, UFO's etc? That's selection bias from our media reporting on it. MUFON has tracked sightings from all over the world. https://mufon.com/ https://mufon.com/
programmarchy 3y ago
Being a kook and a congressman (or intelligence officer) are not mutually exclusive. I haven't really seen anything credible, have you? It's always some ambiguous statement like "I've been told by a high ranking official...", "It appears to be not of this planet..." which puts my bullshit detector on full blast.

bovermyer 3y ago

If sentient aliens are out there watching us, I would not be surprised if they're gathered around their equivalent of a TV with their equivalent of strong beer, watching our world and making bets on whether we survive this century or not.

rwky 3y ago
I suppose that depends on your definition of survive but I'll bet one Ningi [1] we don't. https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Triganic_Pu https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Triganic_Pu
SkyMarshal 3y ago
We're like a giant Truman Show to them, except we're all the stars of it.
- rescripting 3y ago
  How egocentric. Its just as likely, maybe more, that an interplanetary species would view us as we view ants. Do you watch locusts multiply and consume all before them then zoom in and watch the drama unfold between the individuals in the swarm? Or do you stand back and think "stupid things, they'll be hungry soon enough".
  - SkyMarshal 3y ago
    Maybe you haven't seen the movie, but the guy being observed wasn't egotistical, everyone around him manipulating and observing him was.
    - rescripting 3y ago
      I was thinking more about the implication that we'd be worth going to all the trouble of observing.

jedberg 3y ago

So I haven't been keeping up on the aliens story, but I've seen a lot of posts on reddit about it lately. I know there is a hearing today. Does anyone have a good summary that isn't a conspiracy website?

BiteCode_dev 3y ago
Reddit /r/alien is the best source. Pop in and just ask, they are friendly and can articulate a thought between 2 memes.
- jedberg 3y ago
  Yeah when I looked it seemed like a shitposting sub which is why I asked. :)
  - BiteCode_dev 3y ago
    It is also that, after all it's part of the fun.
burkaman 3y ago
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-hearing-congress-uap-takeaways-whistleblower-conference-david-grusch-2023/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-hearing-congress-uap-takeaw...
- jedberg 3y ago
  Thanks, that was a good summary, appreciate it.
stevezsa8 3y ago
I'm not up to date either, but it's probably along the lines of "there's aliens, you have to take my word for it". If mental illness or being mistaken only affected 1% of people... one percent of 7 billion is a big number.
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Loveaway 3y ago

Dear human. We know. All of it. Always have. The things you are concerned about are not yours to solve. Why are you asking for an energy source, do you not have enough energy, how are you writing your blog? Don't be silly. You want better propulsion fuels? That is what you came here to ask for? Or maybe your problem is that you have none?

DoreenMichele 3y ago
Dear humans, Go with passive solar design and stop looking for the holy grail of clean energy. The truth is we are shopping for a new home because we long ago ruined our environment like you are doing to yours.
josefresco 3y ago
> Why are you asking for an energy source, do you not have enough energy, how are you writing your blog? FTA: A lot of out current problems revolve around fuel and the pollution associated with it.
solardev 3y ago
We gave them nuclear fission and they wrote what with it?!

RajT88 3y ago

I hope he shares his analysis of his server logs!

jadbox 3y ago

> "Have we evolved naturally or was there intervention as a start or somewhere along the way?" I loved the letter, but I just quibble on this sentence from my own perspective. It seems to me that concepts like "natural" and "intervention" are almost meaningless to ask. What is "unnatural" to an alien? What kind of matter/energy system can be explained as an "intervention"?

zoba 3y ago
Perhaps: "Did an agent with intent, from outside the otherwise unaffected progression of our earthly sphere, influence the course of history?"
- jadbox 3y ago
  I'm not sure. Can we define alien spores as an agent with intent? Perhaps the sun can be viewed as an agent with intent since it displays an inherent ability to influence the solar system. The universe is swimming in alien interactions.

soneca 3y ago

If the aliens wanted to communicate with all humanity, which channel do you think they should use? Assuming they know all about humanity, the way we communicate, all the languages, etc

guerilla_prgrmr 3y ago
Probably crop fields because its funny
solardev 3y ago
Buy all our world leaders and make them say stupid shit and shoot things at each other for a few centuries. Then replace them all with some social website and gradually announce their presence and act like saviors. We're ready now, please come!!
stevezsa8 3y ago
Maybe send down a landing party or two and hang out with humans for a bit incognito. Knowing about us isn't the same as interacting with us. At least that's what I think. As for actual communication, it's a tough question. My first contact education is based on TV and movies. Hopefully they have a procedure based on actual previous first contact experiences.
echelon 3y ago
They would simulate us in a high fidelity simulation indistinguishable from reality [1] in order to test how to interact. [1] Like the one perhaps you're in right now.

detritus 3y ago

If aliens do exist and are in our vicinity, they absolutely have access to every digitally-transcribed mote of data or communication, should they wish. I kind of view this as a bit of a problem: If it is so, presumably they have orders of magnitude more capacity for control and amendment and could have very plausibly been editing every last bit of digital data we've relied upon over the last 70+ years. They could well have been re-writing our entire view of the universe. We need an order of Analogue Eternally-watching Monks we rely upon to fact-check basic assumptions using entirely non-digital means. Which could get complicated.

idiotsecant 3y ago
Huh? You think they're literally editing radio broadcasts, network transmissions, printed media, etc? And that nobody has noticed? I think your tinfoil is leaking!
- detritus 3y ago
  I'm mooting it as a possibility, tin foil or not. I more meant they could be editing transmissions and inputs from all the digitally-based means we have analysing the universe - including Voyager, telescopes, gravity wave detectors... CERN. It was an idea I pondered trying to turn into a short story, but I'm not a writer, so.. here we are.
  - vimax 3y ago
    Ready the short story True Names by Vernor Vinge. My favorite short story . https://ia801004.us.archive.org/0/items/truenamesvingevernor/True%20Names%20-%20Vinge%2C%20Vernor.pdf https://ia801004.us.archive.org/0/items/truenamesvingevernor... His later book A Deepness in the Sky also revolves around the same ideas.
    - BatFastard 3y ago
      That was an awesome story! I think I had read it 40 years ago, but in an age where AGI is close to real.... its thought provoking.

LandR 3y ago

I want to know how they apparently have advanced tech that allows them to travel the vast distances of space, and if certain people are to be believed, have crafts capable of astonishing maneuvers we can't match... Yet, they crash all the time...

Kye 3y ago
It might be that the feats we see are at the leading edge of their technology and that's why they crash. They might be reaching out to say hello at great risk to themselves. Earth is full of humans who would take the same kind of risk in the other direction.
- LandR 3y ago
  Surely though, if you can take travel near light speed you need a detection and maneuverability system so advanced, because any impact is game over, that pottering around at non relativistic speeds should be an absolute doddle.
  - solardev 3y ago
    Maybe they just send a few trillion and hope a few make it
  - Kye 3y ago
    Have you ever seen those videos of someone getting their first fast car and immediately planting it in a building? Things that are made to handle well going very fast don't necessarily do well going very slow. It could be they normally depend on some guidance infrastructure for intra-stellar travel where they normally operate that isn't present here.
  - notaustinpowers 3y ago
    We have no idea how they could be traveling through space. They could be using something like the alcubierre drive which wouldn't be affecting by dust or microscopic things in space puncturing the craft, they'd just get warped around the craft with the rest of space. Plus, space is so vast and lightspeed is so slow, I can't imagine plotting a trajectory to avoid stars/planets would be at all difficult for a society so advanced.

sneak 3y ago

> However, we’re now in a situation where the total number of people on Earth, combined with our current economic systems, is seriously straining our resources and affecting the quality of life for most people. This is true, but not in the way they mean it - it is affecting the quality of life way upward for most people.

paulette449 3y ago

This may sound weird but I really don't understand the desire to seek and make contact with alien species. Humanity is the alpha species on Earth and we slaughter billions of animals a year to feed our appetites, regardless of the animal's relative intelligence or ability to provide companionship to us. Why do we expect a more intelligent alien species to look upon us any differently to how we look upon a cow/sheep/horse/dog/lobster/octopus and every other species eaten by humanity.

ryandvm 3y ago
The likelihood that life on Earth will be compatible with the digestive processes of an independently evolved life form are exceedingly small. They probably wouldn't look at us like potential food in the same way that we try to eat just about everything, so I don't think we have to worry about becoming livestock. And if they're capable of interstellar transport, they will have absolutely no need for our resources as they'll already have full mastery of energy/matter at their disposal. No, if alien life finds us, they're primarily going to evaluate us as potential threats. Quite like how we treat common pests. Do we have the potential to threaten their convenience? If so, they may eliminate us. If not, the worst we have to fear is probably getting wrapped up in some interstellar pet market...
MattPalmer1086 3y ago
There is no need to assume they are more intelligent. They would probably be differently intelligent. You are right that a more advanced species (although not necessarily more intelligent) could be an existential threat.

MongoTheMad 3y ago

What if the UAPs are all failed time travel devices?

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sschueller 3y ago

What I would like to see at these hearings aren't airmen or military officials giving their "opinion". Instead I would like engineers from Raytheon and Northrop Grumman etc. who build these sensors system to tell congress what they are seeing. From a duck flying at mach whatever over the surface of the sea due to parallax to the triangular night vision system iris. Explain to the laymen who think they saw an UFO what they really saw.

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dangitnotagain 3y ago

Offering of your gratuitous craze. These “Aliens” who have been hanging out in under and around Earth for 10,000 years would like for me to share a short account I have written. Treachery divides us, friends. The Truth is Man is savage and beastial, when not meddlesome scamps. The consequences and when these catch up to us are the real mystery. An account of the “greys” (and the secret war among Man.) https://pastebin.com/42dTemNe https://pastebin.com/42dTemNe

HocusLocus 3y ago

Another earnest attempt to contact that was broadcast on Earth radio in 1976. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teBV0EoJJY8&t=6s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teBV0EoJJY8&t=6s God I miss her, taken so young.