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I actually feel like under-stimulation has caused me to lose the ability to daydream somewhat. I used to have moments in my imagination and I loved it, and then

by aaarrm 3y ago

I actually feel like under-stimulation has caused me to lose the ability to daydream somewhat. I used to have moments in my imagination and I loved it, and then around ~17 or so it all went away. I've been trying to get it back ever since, but I haven't been able to pin down the how or why. At this point I feel my imagination is very untrained, and since it is like a muscle, I need to practice somehow. But I believe the patterns I've instilled in my day-to-day, along with my anxieties around life have forced my imagination into a standstill. Unengaging forms of consumption, ADHD causing me to avoid stimulating tasks, anxiety guiding nearly all of my thoughts all come together to make me have no time or willingness to daydream anymore.

IAmNotACellist 3y ago
Try doing what Jung did, and keep a dream journal. Use it every morning. It helps form connections between your creative unconscious and your ability to perceive and verbalize it in waking life.
- irrational 3y ago
  My dream journal would be blank. In my 50+ years of life, I have never woken up and remembered anything from the moment I fell asleep. As far as I can tell, I experience dreamless sleep.
  - throwbadubadu 3y ago
    Amazing! Hope it is not impolite to ask: I assume even nothing if you just doze away and something wakes you quickly again (I believe many have the mind wandering, crazy thoughts, but no visual dreams there)? Can you doze at all, or is it always quick deep sleep? (would sound desirable) Do you have or feel any impact, any disadvantages? Because sometimes a lot beyond the basic sleep is attributed to being able to dream?
    - irrational 3y ago
      I can doze off, but it's the same as sleeping - absolutely nothing. It is a complete blank from the moment I fall asleep or doze off until I'm conscious again. I can't think of how it could be a disadvantage. I hear people have nightmares. I sure wouldn't want to experience those. I also have zero emotional response to music. All music could cease to exist and I would be completely unaffected. I've always wondered if there is some connection between not dreaming and not having any sort of emotional response to music. Are the two in the same part of the brain?
      - throwbadubadu 3y ago
        Thanks, interesting!
  - vorpalhex 3y ago
    This is going to be odd advice but please give it a try anyways. Do the dream journal process regardless. It is totally fine to wake up, take out the dream journal, write "I had no dreams" and the date and call it an entry. Try it, ideally two weeks, but give it at least ten days. There's a really good (but not 100%) chance you do have dreams but just really don't recall them - but you may start to capture fragments by attempting to describe them first thing. And it really does have to be first thing. Before you play with your phone or brush your teeth. As soon as you can move, grab and start writing.
    - irrational 3y ago
      Oh, I have tried. I know that other people dream, so I've been curious if I could somehow make myself remember, but there is nothing there to remember. It has always been a complete blank from the instant I fall asleep to the instant I wake up.
  - eastbound 3y ago
    Do you snore? Since getting a mouth thingy to push the lower jaw forward, liberating the throat, I snore much less and I dream much more and wake up remembering the dreams! But the effects only lasted until my throat got a little more fat.
    - irrational 3y ago
      I didn't snore until I was in my mid-30s, then I snored for about 5 years until my wife made me go to the sleep clinic and I started using a cpap machine nightly. I didn't ever dream before snoring, while snoring, or after starting to use a cpap machine.
  - Mezzie 3y ago
    This is so weird to me: I've always had really good memories of my dreams. About 80% of nights I end up lucid dreaming too.
    - DANmode 3y ago
      I'd love to be in contact with you, just because of this.
      - Mezzie 3y ago
        I also have dream continuity which I've gathered is fairly weird? Like there are consistent physical and 'multiversal' rules and I can visit the same places over and over + have impacts that last from one dream session to another. I can also read which apparently isn't universal.
      - bottom999mottob 3y ago
        Maybe I'm out of the loop here, but why would this be a reason to want to be in contact with someone? You can read accounts of this and imagine it.
        DANmode 3y ago
        Proper sleep makes you a better you. It's unclear if people getting proper sleep, but don't dream, exist. It's very clear (to me) that people who dream all the time are getting proper sleep.
        6510 3y ago
        (joking) I thought you wanted to be in their dream. My mum had the same dream every night with someone chasing her. She would wake up the moment they caught her. I asked her to describe the surroundings then told her at which point I would enter and scare them off. The next day she put up a face that explained everything. I laughed so hard.
  - nanidin 3y ago
    Dream journaling improves dream recall. You have to do it right away as you may forget you even dreamt within a few minutes.
    - irrational 3y ago
      I've literally never woken up and remembered anything, even within seconds of waking up. I've even tried because I know that other people experience dreams. It's just a complete blank from the moment I fall asleep till the moment I wake up. Just nothing.
      - MrVandemar 3y ago
        People typically remember their dreams when they wake up in the middle of one, and usually then the REM sleep stage. I remember some guy studying this, got his assistant to wake him during REM and found the dreams were pretty vivid when this happened. Maybe you're just enjoying a sound sleep and waking at the "right" time.
        irrational 3y ago
        I don't think that is it. I'm in my 50s and have multiple kids. I've been woken up many times.
  - Folcon 3y ago
    Do you have any conditions that disrupt sleep? I'm in a similar state to what you describe, I can only recall two dreams my entire life. I suspect my apnea disrupts dreaming.
  - Mmalowt 3y ago
    I'm literally in the same shoe, I can't recall when last I dreamed
AlanSE 3y ago
The ideal conditions to stimulate daydreaming seems pretty obvious to me - sit me down in any class lecture. Imagine that my mind like a glider. Glider is connected to a Cessna by a tether, but it's a magical tether that can disappear. In fact, it takes me active work to keep it connected, like I'm holding on to the end of the rope with my hands. The plane takes off and I'm following in lockstep about the main subject matter... looking down at the landscape below, to the left, to the right. After a quick climb, and at velocity, I've forgotten about keeping tethered, holy crud, I'm in the air! I want to bank, dive, maybe loop! What's over here? I can catch a thermal and go on forever depending on the landscape, but still often see more appealing currents and need to switch over. Oh wait, where did the plane go?

by aaarrm 3y ago

IAmNotACellist 3y ago

Try doing what Jung did, and keep a dream journal. Use it every morning. It helps form connections between your creative unconscious and your ability to perceive and verbalize it in waking life.

irrational 3y ago
My dream journal would be blank. In my 50+ years of life, I have never woken up and remembered anything from the moment I fell asleep. As far as I can tell, I experience dreamless sleep.
- throwbadubadu 3y ago
  Amazing! Hope it is not impolite to ask: I assume even nothing if you just doze away and something wakes you quickly again (I believe many have the mind wandering, crazy thoughts, but no visual dreams there)? Can you doze at all, or is it always quick deep sleep? (would sound desirable) Do you have or feel any impact, any disadvantages? Because sometimes a lot beyond the basic sleep is attributed to being able to dream?
  - irrational 3y ago
    I can doze off, but it's the same as sleeping - absolutely nothing. It is a complete blank from the moment I fall asleep or doze off until I'm conscious again. I can't think of how it could be a disadvantage. I hear people have nightmares. I sure wouldn't want to experience those. I also have zero emotional response to music. All music could cease to exist and I would be completely unaffected. I've always wondered if there is some connection between not dreaming and not having any sort of emotional response to music. Are the two in the same part of the brain?
    - throwbadubadu 3y ago
      Thanks, interesting!
- vorpalhex 3y ago
  This is going to be odd advice but please give it a try anyways. Do the dream journal process regardless. It is totally fine to wake up, take out the dream journal, write "I had no dreams" and the date and call it an entry. Try it, ideally two weeks, but give it at least ten days. There's a really good (but not 100%) chance you do have dreams but just really don't recall them - but you may start to capture fragments by attempting to describe them first thing. And it really does have to be first thing. Before you play with your phone or brush your teeth. As soon as you can move, grab and start writing.
  - irrational 3y ago
    Oh, I have tried. I know that other people dream, so I've been curious if I could somehow make myself remember, but there is nothing there to remember. It has always been a complete blank from the instant I fall asleep to the instant I wake up.
- eastbound 3y ago
  Do you snore? Since getting a mouth thingy to push the lower jaw forward, liberating the throat, I snore much less and I dream much more and wake up remembering the dreams! But the effects only lasted until my throat got a little more fat.
  - irrational 3y ago
    I didn't snore until I was in my mid-30s, then I snored for about 5 years until my wife made me go to the sleep clinic and I started using a cpap machine nightly. I didn't ever dream before snoring, while snoring, or after starting to use a cpap machine.
- Mezzie 3y ago
  This is so weird to me: I've always had really good memories of my dreams. About 80% of nights I end up lucid dreaming too.
  - DANmode 3y ago
    I'd love to be in contact with you, just because of this.
    - Mezzie 3y ago
      I also have dream continuity which I've gathered is fairly weird? Like there are consistent physical and 'multiversal' rules and I can visit the same places over and over + have impacts that last from one dream session to another. I can also read which apparently isn't universal.
    - bottom999mottob 3y ago
      Maybe I'm out of the loop here, but why would this be a reason to want to be in contact with someone? You can read accounts of this and imagine it.
      - DANmode 3y ago
        Proper sleep makes you a better you. It's unclear if people getting proper sleep, but don't dream, exist. It's very clear (to me) that people who dream all the time are getting proper sleep.
        6510 3y ago
        (joking) I thought you wanted to be in their dream. My mum had the same dream every night with someone chasing her. She would wake up the moment they caught her. I asked her to describe the surroundings then told her at which point I would enter and scare them off. The next day she put up a face that explained everything. I laughed so hard.
- nanidin 3y ago
  Dream journaling improves dream recall. You have to do it right away as you may forget you even dreamt within a few minutes.
  - irrational 3y ago
    I've literally never woken up and remembered anything, even within seconds of waking up. I've even tried because I know that other people experience dreams. It's just a complete blank from the moment I fall asleep till the moment I wake up. Just nothing.
    - MrVandemar 3y ago
      People typically remember their dreams when they wake up in the middle of one, and usually then the REM sleep stage. I remember some guy studying this, got his assistant to wake him during REM and found the dreams were pretty vivid when this happened. Maybe you're just enjoying a sound sleep and waking at the "right" time.
      - irrational 3y ago
        I don't think that is it. I'm in my 50s and have multiple kids. I've been woken up many times.
- Folcon 3y ago
  Do you have any conditions that disrupt sleep? I'm in a similar state to what you describe, I can only recall two dreams my entire life. I suspect my apnea disrupts dreaming.
- Mmalowt 3y ago
  I'm literally in the same shoe, I can't recall when last I dreamed

AlanSE 3y ago

The ideal conditions to stimulate daydreaming seems pretty obvious to me - sit me down in any class lecture. Imagine that my mind like a glider. Glider is connected to a Cessna by a tether, but it's a magical tether that can disappear. In fact, it takes me active work to keep it connected, like I'm holding on to the end of the rope with my hands. The plane takes off and I'm following in lockstep about the main subject matter... looking down at the landscape below, to the left, to the right. After a quick climb, and at velocity, I've forgotten about keeping tethered, holy crud, I'm in the air! I want to bank, dive, maybe loop! What's over here? I can catch a thermal and go on forever depending on the landscape, but still often see more appealing currents and need to switch over. Oh wait, where did the plane go?