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We seem to have regular fires in NYC now caused by folk daisy chaining Ebike and Escooter batteries to charge them. They seem to spread super quickly, be hard

by codyb 3y ago

We seem to have regular fires in NYC now caused by folk daisy chaining Ebike and Escooter batteries to charge them. They seem to spread super quickly, be hard to extinguish, and release a lot of toxic smoke. 0 - Four dead at ebike store 1 - Leveled a supermarket and laundromat. Firefighter quoted "something we've never seen before, in terms of going from small to big in a matter of a few minutes" 2 - Over three dozen injured [0] - https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/20/us/nyc-ebike-store-fire-lithium-ion-batteries/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/20/us/nyc-ebike-store-fire-lithi... [1] - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lithium-ion-battery-blamed-yet-another-fast-moving-fire-nyc-officials-rcna73566 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lithium-ion-battery-bla... [2] - https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-11-06/nyc-probes-battery-linked-fire-that-injured-over-3-dozen https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-11-06/nyc-probe... It just goes on and on like this with a simple search for "battery fire NYC".

woodruffw 3y ago
Yep. The city has begun offering subsidies to delivery drivers to get them to switch to known safer e-bike models[1]. However, the prices are high even with the subsidies; the fires will likely continue (and continue to be very deadly) until the city takes registration and regulation of repair shops more seriously. [1]: https://nyrideclean.org/ https://nyrideclean.org/
pornel 3y ago
It's not the same situation: 1. People won't be charging EVs on board. 2. BEVs have proper battery management system with temperature monitoring and active cooling, not some DIY hack. But lithium fires, if they start, can be nasty, so I'm not surprised the insurance doesn't like it.
- codyb 3y ago
  Ya, those are fair points. It would be neat to charge the EVs on the ferry ride but that'd probably be a bunch of energy or weight in order to implement.

by codyb 3y ago

woodruffw 3y ago

Yep. The city has begun offering subsidies to delivery drivers to get them to switch to known safer e-bike models[1]. However, the prices are high even with the subsidies; the fires will likely continue (and continue to be very deadly) until the city takes registration and regulation of repair shops more seriously. [1]: https://nyrideclean.org/ https://nyrideclean.org/

pornel 3y ago

It's not the same situation: 1. People won't be charging EVs on board. 2. BEVs have proper battery management system with temperature monitoring and active cooling, not some DIY hack. But lithium fires, if they start, can be nasty, so I'm not surprised the insurance doesn't like it.

codyb 3y ago
Ya, those are fair points. It would be neat to charge the EVs on the ferry ride but that'd probably be a bunch of energy or weight in order to implement.