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The most likely outcome is that we won't know much more after the hearing than before (in particular, I do not expect the star witness to come up with any kind

The most likely outcome is that we won't know much more after the hearing than before (in particular, I do not expect the star witness to come up with any kind of irrefutable evidence.) I suspect the "U" in "UFO" in still going to strongly mean "Unknown" at the end of the hearing. The best case scenario is that he hints at which governement agency's official should be ask to testify next - a game that can be played until we reach the "it's classified, wait a few decade" part of the game. [Edit]: Apparently, (from the live feed of the hearing by the Guardian) he "knows “the exact locations” of where the extra terrestrial material is, "Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses". And yet, I'm ready to bet the obvious follow-up questions "ok, then, where are the locations ?", and "who are those 40 witnesses ?" will remain conveniently unanswered.

RajT88 3y ago
That was clear to me days ago. But - what I heard during this hearing was a commitment to set up a reporting system - outside Pentagon influence - to start aggregating these reports and analyzing them. That's progress I guess.
- revscat 3y ago
  It is. It's also progress that this subject is being treated with the seriousness it so richly deserves. There is one witness who is claiming under oath, and many others privately to Congressmembers, that we are in possession of craft not built by humans. To my knowledge this directly contradicts to what AARO is publicly claiming.
  - sangnoir 3y ago
    > It's also progress that this subject is being treated with the seriousness it so richly deserves. The X-Files and Ancient Aliens have a lot to answer for. > ...we are in possession of craft not built by humans. Aren't KUKA robots awesome?! More seriously - are the aliens only visiting US territories, or is the "cover-up" a global effort that includes coordination between rival nations.
- phtrivier 3y ago
  The risk is that whatever government agency builds the reporting system will be assumed to be part of "the cover up" by some "truth seekers", so it's not guaranteed to help much. But, in the general spirit, transparency and oversight from non military part of the executive branch can't be a completely bad thing ! For info, there is something that might look like such a DB in France: https://www.cnes-geipan.fr/fr/recherche/cas https://www.cnes-geipan.fr/fr/recherche/cas . Apart from confirming that most sightings have a perfercly mondane cause, I don't know if it brings much info. :shrug:, I guess ?
- mattmanser 3y ago
  The UK did that decades ago for years and then released a bunch of the data. It was closed because not a single credible sighting was made and was considered a waste of money by the MoD: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos/ https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22991014 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22991014 So this has already happened in another country and nothing was found. So less progress and more a waste of your tax payer money.
oceanplexian 3y ago
They won’t even declassify tens of thousands of documents surrounding the JFK assassination, do you think they’re really going to release truthful information on extraterrestrials. Not. A. Chance. There is almost certainly a hidden agenda with these disclosures and it has nothing to do with informing the public.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
  Given that the only truthful information they could have on extraterrestrials would be "we've never seen any"... chances are they might. The trouble of course, is that moonbats and other whackjobs can't possibly accept that. If you told me that they'd secretly intercepted an alien transmission (if any of you guys are radio astronomers and it's impossible for such a transmission to be kept secret, let me know) that might at least be plausible. Flying saucers and other nonsense is stuff for children. Grow up. We've had 20 years of cell phone cameras at this point... where are your pictures? Where are the leaks? They couldn't keep Snowden from blowing shit up about illegal universal surveillance, but they can keep a lid on anti-gravity devices recovered from spaceship wreckage?
  - RajT88 3y ago
    > We've had 20 years of cell phone cameras at this point... where are your pictures Try getting into bird photography using your cellphone. You will find that your photos of birds mere hundreds of feet away suck. (I spent half a G on a smart telescope and even those pictures are not that great) It is not as easy as you would think.
    - allemagne 3y ago
      Sure, yet we have picture evidence of any variety of bird you can think of.
      - RajT88 3y ago
        Correct. We have pictures of unidentified objects. Check and mate!

RajT88 3y ago

That was clear to me days ago. But - what I heard during this hearing was a commitment to set up a reporting system - outside Pentagon influence - to start aggregating these reports and analyzing them. That's progress I guess.

revscat 3y ago
It is. It's also progress that this subject is being treated with the seriousness it so richly deserves. There is one witness who is claiming under oath, and many others privately to Congressmembers, that we are in possession of craft not built by humans. To my knowledge this directly contradicts to what AARO is publicly claiming.
- sangnoir 3y ago
  > It's also progress that this subject is being treated with the seriousness it so richly deserves. The X-Files and Ancient Aliens have a lot to answer for. > ...we are in possession of craft not built by humans. Aren't KUKA robots awesome?! More seriously - are the aliens only visiting US territories, or is the "cover-up" a global effort that includes coordination between rival nations.
phtrivier 3y ago
The risk is that whatever government agency builds the reporting system will be assumed to be part of "the cover up" by some "truth seekers", so it's not guaranteed to help much. But, in the general spirit, transparency and oversight from non military part of the executive branch can't be a completely bad thing ! For info, there is something that might look like such a DB in France: https://www.cnes-geipan.fr/fr/recherche/cas https://www.cnes-geipan.fr/fr/recherche/cas . Apart from confirming that most sightings have a perfercly mondane cause, I don't know if it brings much info. :shrug:, I guess ?
mattmanser 3y ago
The UK did that decades ago for years and then released a bunch of the data. It was closed because not a single credible sighting was made and was considered a waste of money by the MoD: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos/ https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22991014 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22991014 So this has already happened in another country and nothing was found. So less progress and more a waste of your tax payer money.

oceanplexian 3y ago

They won’t even declassify tens of thousands of documents surrounding the JFK assassination, do you think they’re really going to release truthful information on extraterrestrials. Not. A. Chance. There is almost certainly a hidden agenda with these disclosures and it has nothing to do with informing the public.

NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
Given that the only truthful information they could have on extraterrestrials would be "we've never seen any"... chances are they might. The trouble of course, is that moonbats and other whackjobs can't possibly accept that. If you told me that they'd secretly intercepted an alien transmission (if any of you guys are radio astronomers and it's impossible for such a transmission to be kept secret, let me know) that might at least be plausible. Flying saucers and other nonsense is stuff for children. Grow up. We've had 20 years of cell phone cameras at this point... where are your pictures? Where are the leaks? They couldn't keep Snowden from blowing shit up about illegal universal surveillance, but they can keep a lid on anti-gravity devices recovered from spaceship wreckage?
- RajT88 3y ago
  > We've had 20 years of cell phone cameras at this point... where are your pictures Try getting into bird photography using your cellphone. You will find that your photos of birds mere hundreds of feet away suck. (I spent half a G on a smart telescope and even those pictures are not that great) It is not as easy as you would think.
  - allemagne 3y ago
    Sure, yet we have picture evidence of any variety of bird you can think of.
    - RajT88 3y ago
      Correct. We have pictures of unidentified objects. Check and mate!