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I have a different take on the topic. People should not pay for software - average Joe should have all kinds of software basically free. Now you ask "who shou

by ozim 3y ago

I have a different take on the topic. People should not pay for software - average Joe should have all kinds of software basically free. Now you ask "who should pay for development", corporations, companies or foundations where people still could donate but would not have to. Where corporations and companies pay salaries and provide end users with services. Solo devs should not write and maintain anything without getting paid. Yes it is "corporate dystopia" but on the other hand when I see all kinds of rants or horror stories from OSS maintainers and companies that don't want to contribute it seems only reasonable way. Corporation/Company/Foundation pay salaries for devs and provide people with software while charging for services like keeping data or any other actual services that can be connected to software they provide or in case of foundations by donations.

ativzzz 3y ago
This is like the musician problem. There are so many people willing to play for pretty much nothing or for free that it's very hard for the average musician to make money. On the consumer side, why should you always pay for music when so many people are doing it for free? There's an oversupply of eager musicians making music Same with OSS development. Why should you pay for something if people just do it for free? Doesn't matter who the consumer is. > Solo devs should not write and maintain anything without getting paid. But they do, and they will regardless. And until they stop, nothing will change. There's an oversupply of eager coders coding for free Companies will pay (their own developers) once the OSS solution doesn't work or needs extra extensions that doesn't exist.
- vbezhenar 3y ago
  > But they do, and they will regardless. And until they stop, nothing will change. There's an oversupply of eager coders coding for free There's no thriving market of OSS apps for iOS. So the solution is simple. Charge some money from developer to allow distribution of his apps. This seem to kill open source attitude very well.
  - em-bee 3y ago
    is there a thriving market of FOSS apps on google play? f-droid doesn't count. anyways, here is a list of FOSS apps on IOS: https://dev.to/devfan/a-curated-list-of-open-source-example-ios-apps-developed-in-swift-1cfn https://dev.to/devfan/a-curated-list-of-open-source-example-...
em-bee 3y ago
i would amend that with "average Joe should have all kinds of software basically free under a FOSS license" and how about "corporation should not be allowed to use any software without paying for it"? it should essentially be treated like a tax. if the software has no price, then the price will be evaluated by some metric. (could be lines of code, but also revenue of the company could be considered)

by ozim 3y ago

ativzzz 3y ago

This is like the musician problem. There are so many people willing to play for pretty much nothing or for free that it's very hard for the average musician to make money. On the consumer side, why should you always pay for music when so many people are doing it for free? There's an oversupply of eager musicians making music Same with OSS development. Why should you pay for something if people just do it for free? Doesn't matter who the consumer is. > Solo devs should not write and maintain anything without getting paid. But they do, and they will regardless. And until they stop, nothing will change. There's an oversupply of eager coders coding for free Companies will pay (their own developers) once the OSS solution doesn't work or needs extra extensions that doesn't exist.

vbezhenar 3y ago
> But they do, and they will regardless. And until they stop, nothing will change. There's an oversupply of eager coders coding for free There's no thriving market of OSS apps for iOS. So the solution is simple. Charge some money from developer to allow distribution of his apps. This seem to kill open source attitude very well.
- em-bee 3y ago
  is there a thriving market of FOSS apps on google play? f-droid doesn't count. anyways, here is a list of FOSS apps on IOS: https://dev.to/devfan/a-curated-list-of-open-source-example-ios-apps-developed-in-swift-1cfn https://dev.to/devfan/a-curated-list-of-open-source-example-...

em-bee 3y ago

i would amend that with "average Joe should have all kinds of software basically free under a FOSS license" and how about "corporation should not be allowed to use any software without paying for it"? it should essentially be treated like a tax. if the software has no price, then the price will be evaluated by some metric. (could be lines of code, but also revenue of the company could be considered)