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I'm a huge JetBrains nerd. Love their stuff. Definitely married to their IDEs at this point as muscle memory, however: Their quality has gone down hill lately.

I'm a huge JetBrains nerd. Love their stuff. Definitely married to their IDEs at this point as muscle memory, however: Their quality has gone down hill lately. Plugins are a bit half baked or missing lots of functionality. They for the longest time would eschew using the community available LSP as opposed to trying to build their own, they finally capitulated on this (I saw this with the Vue related updates in Webstorm that they're using Volar now, for instance) I know they're likely throwing alot of effort behind Fleet, but its taking way too long to get out the door as usable. Its missing too much. Its a chicken / egg problem in that I can see how Fleet is the next generation of Jetbrains but its not far enough along to supplant any of their IDEs because its missing too many features and plugins. I really hope this is a lull (all companies have them) and they come out swinging again soon

n42 3y ago
I’m a die hard JetBrains fan and I’ve finally given up and started using VSCode because I can’t wait for them to develop language extensions for every language I want to work in. I will switch back as soon as I can for the languages I can’t use now, but for now, straddling two sets of IDEs really sucks and I’m kind of considering dropping JetBrains entirely just for less mental overhead. Lack of proper LSP support is killing them and their recent development isn’t enough
joshstrange 3y ago
I have felt like there has been a drop in quality recently which is frustrating. Last I checked there were still Vue 3 things that didn't work well that work in VSCode from what I can tell. I don't expect them to have everything perfect at launch but it's been 2-3 years and Vue 3 is still worse than Vue 2 coding (I do both) in a lot of little ways. Some of that is Vue 3's fault (don't get me started on them abandoning class components) but some of it really should be handled better in the IDE. As for Fleet... it's shit. It's just a slightly nicer VSCode but I have zero interest in editing JSON files to configure my plugins. I think in the end it's just going to be a less popular VSCode. I see it as a bad distraction for JetBrains and it worries me quite a bit. Stop chasing VSCode and improve your IDE.

n42 3y ago

I’m a die hard JetBrains fan and I’ve finally given up and started using VSCode because I can’t wait for them to develop language extensions for every language I want to work in. I will switch back as soon as I can for the languages I can’t use now, but for now, straddling two sets of IDEs really sucks and I’m kind of considering dropping JetBrains entirely just for less mental overhead. Lack of proper LSP support is killing them and their recent development isn’t enough

joshstrange 3y ago

I have felt like there has been a drop in quality recently which is frustrating. Last I checked there were still Vue 3 things that didn't work well that work in VSCode from what I can tell. I don't expect them to have everything perfect at launch but it's been 2-3 years and Vue 3 is still worse than Vue 2 coding (I do both) in a lot of little ways. Some of that is Vue 3's fault (don't get me started on them abandoning class components) but some of it really should be handled better in the IDE. As for Fleet... it's shit. It's just a slightly nicer VSCode but I have zero interest in editing JSON files to configure my plugins. I think in the end it's just going to be a less popular VSCode. I see it as a bad distraction for JetBrains and it worries me quite a bit. Stop chasing VSCode and improve your IDE.