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I think the professions of policing and teaching has gotten so bad that good people are no longer becoming police and teachers. It is only the worst in society

I think the professions of policing and teaching has gotten so bad that good people are no longer becoming police and teachers. It is only the worst in society getting hired for these professions because no one else will. Perhaps the same could be said for politicians.

electric_mayhem 3y ago
Do you have data supporting that it’s valid to suggest that only the worst people in society are still interested in being teachers? I’m no saint; I work in tech for real money. But the teachers I know -and I know many, of varying ages and tenures- overwhelmingly got into it because they wanted to make a difference in kids’ lives. Do I know a few who were mainly into having summers off? Sure. But even that doesn’t make that small subset ‘the worst in society’. Show me some actual data supporting it and I’ll consider your perspective, but in the absence of that I feel like it’s just plain despicable to shit on teachers like that.
flapjaxy 3y ago
Interesting to lump in teaching with policing. Even if you are correct, and the folks are the same caliber, the criticisms of both highlight the issues with the institutions. (The main thrust if the critique for police) At any rate,this comparison is ridiculous and a false equivalencecy that could swap out nurses for teachers and hold your analogy.
tehwebguy 3y ago
Outrageously offensive to paint teachers with the same brush. Teachers are among the worst treated working people in the country while police enjoy unbelievable benefits not afforded to anyone else.
- axus 3y ago
  Police working conditions can be very difficult. Imagine you are moderating 4chan, but in person with public safety on the line. Sometimes teaching conditions can be like that too. A major difference is that police often evade consequences for very bad decisions, and teachers often don't and for much more benign things.
  - tehwebguy 3y ago
    Every working person‘s job can be very difficult. There are virtually no jobs in this country where you cannot be fired for being rude. Just being rude! I don’t mean violating someone’s rights, just being rude. Every single retail job matches your description of moderating 4chan at times. Every single customer-facing service worker is required to have higher emotional intelligence than this cop in order to keep their job. Police can do virtually anything to you without consequence.

electric_mayhem 3y ago

Do you have data supporting that it’s valid to suggest that only the worst people in society are still interested in being teachers? I’m no saint; I work in tech for real money. But the teachers I know -and I know many, of varying ages and tenures- overwhelmingly got into it because they wanted to make a difference in kids’ lives. Do I know a few who were mainly into having summers off? Sure. But even that doesn’t make that small subset ‘the worst in society’. Show me some actual data supporting it and I’ll consider your perspective, but in the absence of that I feel like it’s just plain despicable to shit on teachers like that.

flapjaxy 3y ago

Interesting to lump in teaching with policing. Even if you are correct, and the folks are the same caliber, the criticisms of both highlight the issues with the institutions. (The main thrust if the critique for police) At any rate,this comparison is ridiculous and a false equivalencecy that could swap out nurses for teachers and hold your analogy.

tehwebguy 3y ago

Outrageously offensive to paint teachers with the same brush. Teachers are among the worst treated working people in the country while police enjoy unbelievable benefits not afforded to anyone else.

axus 3y ago
Police working conditions can be very difficult. Imagine you are moderating 4chan, but in person with public safety on the line. Sometimes teaching conditions can be like that too. A major difference is that police often evade consequences for very bad decisions, and teachers often don't and for much more benign things.
- tehwebguy 3y ago
  Every working person‘s job can be very difficult. There are virtually no jobs in this country where you cannot be fired for being rude. Just being rude! I don’t mean violating someone’s rights, just being rude. Every single retail job matches your description of moderating 4chan at times. Every single customer-facing service worker is required to have higher emotional intelligence than this cop in order to keep their job. Police can do virtually anything to you without consequence.