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Soon, websites will require kernel access to make sure you don't have cheats installed. (Sarcasm, obviously)
by sakex 3y ago
Soon, websites will require kernel access to make sure you don't have cheats installed. (Sarcasm, obviously)
- hotstickyballs 3y agoNot that extreme but some banking apps on android did check for root at some point and refused to run so there may be precedent
- theK 3y agoIn the 2000s it was funny how corporates just failed to understand how client server models worked. Nowadays it is just sad and a reason to move more and more towards crypto for the day to day banking stuff...
- theK 3y agoOh right! I said crypto on hacker news! what was I thinking?! :-D
- nobody9999 3y ago>Oh right! I said crypto on hacker news! what was I thinking?! :-D Post that comment again when crypto accounts are FDIC[0] (or whatever scheme, if any, is used where you live) insured. I'm sure you'll get a different response. [0] https://www.fdic.gov/ https://www.fdic.gov/
- theK 3y agoYou only need FDIC in systems where you don't own the coins. Cryptocurrencies actually obviate a lot of added fat like this ;-)
- Alifatisk 3y agoRemember when Ebay did portscans on their clients to see if it was a bot?
- tiltowait 3y agoIt might be more common than you think. Some major SAST tools complain if you aren't checking if the device is rooted, and it wouldn't surprise me if some naive shops blindly followed the recommendation without need.
- out_of_protocol 3y agoMany random apps do e.g. McDonald's app, and not just root but SafetyNet checks, which is way more strict than just root thing
- dur-randir 3y agoLots of online games already require that. Valve is especially notorious with that.
- melvyn2 3y agoNo, Valve is specifically noted for not having a kernel-driver anticheat in a landscape where most competitive games do use them. Notably, Easy Anti-Cheat, BattlEye, and Valorant's Vanguard all use kernel drivers, but no Valve Anti-Cheat has, because they've focused on server-side heuristics and crowed-sourced detection instead of trying to force the client to rat itself out.
- kmeisthax 3y agoThis is already one of the use-cases listed for WEI. The intended implementation of WEI will be Play Protect which lives in ARM TrustZone and thus runs above the kernel[0]. So you'll have something even more invasive than kernel-level anticheat. [0] In ARM speak, kernel mode is EL1, hypervisor mode is EL2, and TrustZone mode is EL3. Each exception level is a higher level of privilege.
- Izkata 3y agoSecuROM is DRM for PC games that installs a rootkit. I first learned about it when it was used with Spore 15 years ago and it bricked my Windows install.