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About a decade ago there used to be a site in the Polish internet called "Strata Kazika" (Kazik's Loss). At that time Kazik was one of the most vocal anti-pirac

About a decade ago there used to be a site in the Polish internet called "Strata Kazika" (Kazik's Loss). At that time Kazik was one of the most vocal anti-piracy artists who equaled copying to stealing. So the site's shtick was to take Kazik's newest album and copy it. Then delete to make place for another copy. In a loop. The site then counted how much money has been already stolen from Kazik in the process, and you could also copy albums by yourself locally and report it on the site, incrementing the overall counter. I have to admit that I have participated in this highly unethical venture myself, and as far as I remember we have collectively managed to steal billions of dollars this way. We were supposed to split our loot and all get super rich. However, the site isn't available anymore. I suspect its author simply took the money and ran away...

cubefox 3y ago
> About a decade ago there used to be a site in the Polish internet called "Strata Kazika" (Kazik's Loss). At that time Kazik was one of the most vocal anti-piracy artists who equaled copying to stealing. This is highly irrelevant. I didn't say anything about stealing. The actual music revenue collapsed starting from 1999. Due to pure magic apparently!
- seba_dos1 3y ago
  Of course industry's revenue will collapse when you steal billions from them, duh. After all, we all know there's no other rational reason for these profits to plummet than piracy... It's not like people's habits and technology has significantly changed around that time.
  - cubefox 3y ago
    Yeah. The new habit was to illegally download music from the Web instead of buying it on CD or from iTunes. Or do you think that around the millennium, people suddenly lost interest in music?
    - seba_dos1 3y ago
      I grew up during that time and I simply had no proper options to get music in a convenient digital way long after it became technologically possible. When something actually appeared, it was either DRMed or unacceptably lossy for the price (or both). How can anyone be surprised that people stopped giving money when it was made so hard for them to give money? I ended up with a personal collection of CDs for other reasons anyway, but the music industry simply did nothing to meet the demand and gave up the playing field to Spotify and Apple on their own chord. Look at last.fm for what happened when someone wanted to step into the XXI century while respecting the music industry rules.

cubefox 3y ago

> About a decade ago there used to be a site in the Polish internet called "Strata Kazika" (Kazik's Loss). At that time Kazik was one of the most vocal anti-piracy artists who equaled copying to stealing. This is highly irrelevant. I didn't say anything about stealing. The actual music revenue collapsed starting from 1999. Due to pure magic apparently!

seba_dos1 3y ago
Of course industry's revenue will collapse when you steal billions from them, duh. After all, we all know there's no other rational reason for these profits to plummet than piracy... It's not like people's habits and technology has significantly changed around that time.
- cubefox 3y ago
  Yeah. The new habit was to illegally download music from the Web instead of buying it on CD or from iTunes. Or do you think that around the millennium, people suddenly lost interest in music?
  - seba_dos1 3y ago
    I grew up during that time and I simply had no proper options to get music in a convenient digital way long after it became technologically possible. When something actually appeared, it was either DRMed or unacceptably lossy for the price (or both). How can anyone be surprised that people stopped giving money when it was made so hard for them to give money? I ended up with a personal collection of CDs for other reasons anyway, but the music industry simply did nothing to meet the demand and gave up the playing field to Spotify and Apple on their own chord. Look at last.fm for what happened when someone wanted to step into the XXI century while respecting the music industry rules.