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You are the one introducing gender identity into this subthread. The poster you reply to has done no such thing. People increasingly don't even read the posts

by nybdty 3y ago

You are the one introducing gender identity into this subthread. The poster you reply to has done no such thing. People increasingly don't even read the posts before the go off on ideological rants and false accusations.

maccard 3y ago
> People increasingly don't even read the posts before the go off on ideological rants and false accusations. Eh? The comment I replied to said `The only potentially "controversial" idea (as in, corp might not like it but will have to deal with it) that is still accepted in tech is being trans or a furry. I have no issue with either, mind you, just pointing out that anything else is a no-no.`
- sph 3y ago
  I should be able to mention it en passant without having to dive deep into my opinions of the matter which are wholly unrelated and just a way to entrap me. The discussion is around identity, and mentioning that these days only gender identity is a corporate-acceptable struggle. I claim that identity in general should be celebrated. I shan't be afraid to say, on my blog I'm an anarchist, or, for argument's sake, I'm a satanist, I am trans, I vote Trump, Google is a shitty company, or Star Wars is a terrible franchise.
  - maccard 3y ago
    > I should be able to mention it en passant without having to dive deep into my opinions of the matter which are wholly unrelated No, you don't get to do that on any topic. If you write a blog post on a programming language feature, and in the middle of your post decide to slip in a note about your feelings on the middle east conflict, web3/crypto or your political opinions, expect people to talk about that. You decided it was important enough to mention in your post, so it's up for discussion. > and just a way to entrap me. Nah, you don't get "woe is me" card if you shoehorn in a dog whistle and get called out on it. > I shan't be afraid to say, on my blog I'm an anarchist, or, for argument's sake, I'm a satanist, I am trans, I vote Trump, Google is a shitty company, or Star Wars is a terrible franchise. Do that. But don't be surprised if people treat your words equally. If you can't keep your message on-point, that's a you problem, not an everyone else problem.
    - sph 3y ago
      > you shoehorn in a dog whistle This is why social media is shit today. It's full of people unable to sustain intelligent discussion, so they try to find hidden meaning behind someone else's words. You see a dog whistle, I see a person that gets off doing online witch hunts, instead of simply knowing how to disagree. If you have to resort to the personal attack, it's quite obvious there is no intelligent argument to be had here. This is not Twitter. Good day.

by nybdty 3y ago

maccard 3y ago

> People increasingly don't even read the posts before the go off on ideological rants and false accusations. Eh? The comment I replied to said `The only potentially "controversial" idea (as in, corp might not like it but will have to deal with it) that is still accepted in tech is being trans or a furry. I have no issue with either, mind you, just pointing out that anything else is a no-no.`

sph 3y ago
I should be able to mention it en passant without having to dive deep into my opinions of the matter which are wholly unrelated and just a way to entrap me. The discussion is around identity, and mentioning that these days only gender identity is a corporate-acceptable struggle. I claim that identity in general should be celebrated. I shan't be afraid to say, on my blog I'm an anarchist, or, for argument's sake, I'm a satanist, I am trans, I vote Trump, Google is a shitty company, or Star Wars is a terrible franchise.
- maccard 3y ago
  > I should be able to mention it en passant without having to dive deep into my opinions of the matter which are wholly unrelated No, you don't get to do that on any topic. If you write a blog post on a programming language feature, and in the middle of your post decide to slip in a note about your feelings on the middle east conflict, web3/crypto or your political opinions, expect people to talk about that. You decided it was important enough to mention in your post, so it's up for discussion. > and just a way to entrap me. Nah, you don't get "woe is me" card if you shoehorn in a dog whistle and get called out on it. > I shan't be afraid to say, on my blog I'm an anarchist, or, for argument's sake, I'm a satanist, I am trans, I vote Trump, Google is a shitty company, or Star Wars is a terrible franchise. Do that. But don't be surprised if people treat your words equally. If you can't keep your message on-point, that's a you problem, not an everyone else problem.
  - sph 3y ago
    > you shoehorn in a dog whistle This is why social media is shit today. It's full of people unable to sustain intelligent discussion, so they try to find hidden meaning behind someone else's words. You see a dog whistle, I see a person that gets off doing online witch hunts, instead of simply knowing how to disagree. If you have to resort to the personal attack, it's quite obvious there is no intelligent argument to be had here. This is not Twitter. Good day.