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What is not on streaming services? From my experience - if it's not on spotify then it's on youtube.

by zirgs 3y ago

Semaphor 3y ago
Very little, nowadays, but most stuff from Eric Ravn (metal/rock, somewhat famous for Wuthering Heights) [0] is not even available to buy other than as CDs that you order via HTML form ;) A few years ago, German medieval/folk band Die Streuner also wasn’t available on streaming services. Both have in common, that they have their own label. [0]: https://nagelfestmusic.com/shop/ https://nagelfestmusic.com/shop/
- zirgs 3y ago
  I suspect that they aren't getting many sales this way.
- thallian 3y ago
  Ha, die Streuner were the original inspiration for me to write my own dumb and small music streaming service. Seeing them mentioned here might just give me the motivation to pick that project up again.
  - Semaphor 3y ago
    Hah, that’s cool :D They are on Spotify, nowadays, though. But yeah, I own all their albums, though it took until last week for me to realize they had a 25th anniversary album in 2019. Without facebook it’s hard keeping up with releases of bands not on Bandcamp.
seba_dos1 3y ago
A lot of stuff is neither on Spotify nor YouTube. One of my musical special interests is a very popular Polish rock band from the 80s and even they don't have their whole discography on Spotify yet, and I had to upload some rarer stuff to the Internet myself. It improved over the years though - just a few years ago you only had a few albums of their discography on Spotify. Now it's just one studio album missing - although most of their live albums aren't there as well and that probably won't change anytime soon; and not even talking about songs that got only released as singles. Once you go "slightly less popular than one of the top bands in the country", stuff quickly becomes hard to find across the whole Internet, not just Spotify or YouTube, often even when CDs are still available to buy (which isn't a given either).
antihero 3y ago
Streaming services can be compelled to remove your access to content at any point. I don’t like giving that power to anyone when it comes to something I love so deeply.
- zirgs 3y ago
  I treat streaming services like radio without ads. And it's always possible to buy music from sites like bandcamp and own it permanently.
Pannoniae 3y ago
Lots of old music is not there (I love collecting 30-40s jazz, many records are simply not on any streaming service because they were bootlegs/live recordings and weren't officially released)
wwalexander 3y ago
Bootlegs, DJ sets, leaks, and many, many albums that streaming services don’t/won’t/can’t license e.g. Switched-On Bach by Wendy Carlos.
- iggldiggl 3y ago
  And sometimes the record label manages to upload a live album with all the track transitions cut out (the pre-gap bits on the physical CDs – I'm still wondering whether they actually just ripped their own CDs for uploading and somehow mishandled the ripping software to drop the pre-gaps instead of combining them with one of the adjacent tracks?), despite that artist being pretty well-known and one of those albums being somewhat (in)famous for what happens precisely in-between the actual tracks.
mrguyorama 3y ago
Spotify routinely removes access to songs. Half of my "favorites" playlist, going all the way back to 2016, is just gone, off of spotify, and I'm unable to listen to those songs.

What is not on streaming services? From my experience - if it's not on spotify then it's on youtube.

by zirgs 3y ago

What is not on streaming services? From my experience - if it's not on spotify then it's on youtube.

Very little, nowadays, but most stuff from Eric Ravn (metal/rock, somewhat famous for Wuthering Heights) [0] is not even available to buy other than as CDs that you order via HTML form ;) A few years ago, German medieval/folk band Die Streuner also wasn’t available on streaming services. Both have in common, that they have their own label. [0]: https://nagelfestmusic.com/shop/ https://nagelfestmusic.com/shop/

zirgs 3y ago
I suspect that they aren't getting many sales this way.
thallian 3y ago
Ha, die Streuner were the original inspiration for me to write my own dumb and small music streaming service. Seeing them mentioned here might just give me the motivation to pick that project up again.
- Semaphor 3y ago
  Hah, that’s cool :D They are on Spotify, nowadays, though. But yeah, I own all their albums, though it took until last week for me to realize they had a 25th anniversary album in 2019. Without facebook it’s hard keeping up with releases of bands not on Bandcamp.

seba_dos1 3y ago

A lot of stuff is neither on Spotify nor YouTube. One of my musical special interests is a very popular Polish rock band from the 80s and even they don't have their whole discography on Spotify yet, and I had to upload some rarer stuff to the Internet myself. It improved over the years though - just a few years ago you only had a few albums of their discography on Spotify. Now it's just one studio album missing - although most of their live albums aren't there as well and that probably won't change anytime soon; and not even talking about songs that got only released as singles. Once you go "slightly less popular than one of the top bands in the country", stuff quickly becomes hard to find across the whole Internet, not just Spotify or YouTube, often even when CDs are still available to buy (which isn't a given either).

antihero 3y ago

Streaming services can be compelled to remove your access to content at any point. I don’t like giving that power to anyone when it comes to something I love so deeply.

zirgs 3y ago
I treat streaming services like radio without ads. And it's always possible to buy music from sites like bandcamp and own it permanently.

Pannoniae 3y ago

Lots of old music is not there (I love collecting 30-40s jazz, many records are simply not on any streaming service because they were bootlegs/live recordings and weren't officially released)

wwalexander 3y ago

Bootlegs, DJ sets, leaks, and many, many albums that streaming services don’t/won’t/can’t license e.g. Switched-On Bach by Wendy Carlos.

iggldiggl 3y ago
And sometimes the record label manages to upload a live album with all the track transitions cut out (the pre-gap bits on the physical CDs – I'm still wondering whether they actually just ripped their own CDs for uploading and somehow mishandled the ripping software to drop the pre-gaps instead of combining them with one of the adjacent tracks?), despite that artist being pretty well-known and one of those albums being somewhat (in)famous for what happens precisely in-between the actual tracks.

mrguyorama 3y ago

Spotify routinely removes access to songs. Half of my "favorites" playlist, going all the way back to 2016, is just gone, off of spotify, and I'm unable to listen to those songs.