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You are trying to collerate loss of revenue with the loss caused by piracy, without any data of loss caused by piracy. Also, showing a graph without the last 1

• cubefox 3y ago
  > You are trying to collerate loss of revenue with the loss caused by piracy, without any data of loss caused by piracy. The only explanation for the complete collapse of CD sales starting in 1999 is piracy. Napster & Co. Anything else is dishonest. > Also, showing a graph without the last 10 years is making the data lying: https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database No, this data is lying because it ignores inflation. Here is an inflation adjusted chart, which shows a massive drop in revenue: https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/US-recorded-music-revs-1999-v-2020.png https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/... Moreover, even if revenue were on the same level today as it was more than 20 years ago, which it isn't, this would ignore the fact that in the meantime the global economy has increased substantially, such that the revenue without piracy would be much higher than back then. > Also, actual studies shows piracy helped sales, not hindered earnings: This is about video games and highly speculative. For music there is overwhelming evidence that piracy completely crushed the CD market.
  • Kuinox 3y ago
    There is so much evidence you failed to source it.
  • seba_dos1 3y ago
    About a decade ago there used to be a site in the Polish internet called "Strata Kazika" (Kazik's Loss). At that time Kazik was one of the most vocal anti-piracy artists who equaled copying to stealing. So the site's shtick was to take Kazik's newest album and copy it. Then delete to make place for another copy. In a loop. The site then counted how much money has been already stolen from Kazik in the process, and you could also copy albums by yourself locally and report it on the site, incrementing the overall counter. I have to admit that I have participated in this highly unethical venture myself, and as far as I remember we have collectively managed to steal billions of dollars this way. We were supposed to split our loot and all get super rich. However, the site isn't available anymore. I suspect its author simply took the money and ran away...
    • cubefox 3y ago
      > About a decade ago there used to be a site in the Polish internet called "Strata Kazika" (Kazik's Loss). At that time Kazik was one of the most vocal anti-piracy artists who equaled copying to stealing. This is highly irrelevant. I didn't say anything about stealing. The actual music revenue collapsed starting from 1999. Due to pure magic apparently!
      • seba_dos1 3y ago
        Of course industry's revenue will collapse when you steal billions from them, duh. After all, we all know there's no other rational reason for these profits to plummet than piracy... It's not like people's habits and technology has significantly changed around that time.
        • cubefox 3y ago
          Yeah. The new habit was to illegally download music from the Web instead of buying it on CD or from iTunes. Or do you think that around the millennium, people suddenly lost interest in music?
          • seba_dos1 3y ago
            I grew up during that time and I simply had no proper options to get music in a convenient digital way long after it became technologically possible. When something actually appeared, it was either DRMed or unacceptably lossy for the price (or both). How can anyone be surprised that people stopped giving money when it was made so hard for them to give money? I ended up with a personal collection of CDs for other reasons anyway, but the music industry simply did nothing to meet the demand and gave up the playing field to Spotify and Apple on their own chord. Look at last.fm for what happened when someone wanted to step into the XXI century while respecting the music industry rules.