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I would like to add that "innocent until proven guilty", like "free speech", shouldn't just apply to state action and should be a cultural norm; both of which h
by gottorf 3y ago
I would like to add that "innocent until proven guilty", like "free speech", shouldn't just apply to state action and should be a cultural norm; both of which have been regrettably slipping as of late.
- PaulDavisThe1st 3y agoIn cases like the one in TFA, its a little difficult to follow "innocent until proven guilty" because both parties are claiming the other is guilty of something actionable. If the accusations are mild or the consequences are minor, then just restraining orders etc. can do the trick. But if I'm claiming that my partner is endangering our kids or my life, and my partner is alleging the same, or even just that I'm lying, "innocent until proven guilty" is non-trivial to adopt.
- biomcgary 3y agoThe slow speed of the judicial system is not conducive to "innocent until proven guilty", since lots of people are in limbo at any given time. A slow judicial system drives up the cost of the innocent getting a good legal defense. It also delays consideration of new evidence that can exonerate the innocent that have been convicted. The 6th Amendment to the US Constitution recognizes the need for judicial speed, even if court cases have effectively gutted that amendment (like the 4th with civil asset forfeiture).