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> you can choose to live outside of society. That might be very difficult Try "impossible". No person reading HN is prepared to forgo all of what civilization
by gcanyon 3y ago
> you can choose to live outside of society. That might be very difficult
Try "impossible". No person reading HN is prepared to forgo all of what civilization provides. There are probably a very few people on the planet, who are already living in an extremely isolated tribal setting, who could go it alone, but if they're reading HN I hope they'll speak up now, I'd love to hear their opinion on this.
- dools 3y agoIt’s not impossible at all there are millions of people who live lives of total lawlessness.
- gcanyon 3y ago"lawlessness" <> "outside of society" The clear implication of your original statement was that it is possible to not owe society anything by not taking anything from others. To do that requires a level of self-sufficiency that only a very small fraction of people possess.
- dools 3y agoNo, I said: “For many, society doesn't provide any advantages and so they choose non-compliance and all the consequences that come with it.” So what I mean is you can choose to live outside of society, meaning not complying with laws. That is lawlessness, it’s a life of crime. Living as a sovereign citizen outside of any legal structure in such a way that you neither depend on any legal structure nor do you infringe upon any legal structure is very difficult, and available only to a very small number of people. But anyone can choose lawlessness at any time.
- gcanyon 3y agoAnd I’m saying that people who do that are ethically compromised in general, and dishonest if they think they are “outside of society” while still benefitting from mains electricity, mass-produced goods, etc.