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Why would you want your browser to manage themes and window management (tiling, links outside of web) while it is the job of the OS/desktop environment?

zsims 3y ago
Doesn't that argument apply to tabs also? Eg IE6 days where there were no tabs, and everything was deferred to the OS/desktop window management. It was clunky and painful.
- skulk 3y ago
  I consider that an indictment of window management, not browser UIs. I used [0] to use EXWM + qutebrowser in tabs_are_windows [1] mode. Being able to switch between tabs/open files/IRC rooms/whatever else emacs can do with fuzzy buffer searching felt like computer enlightenment. [0]: EXWM runs in emacs's normal lisp environment which sometimes blocks the thread that EXWM listens for events on... this is obviously untenable and I never got around to finding out how to avoid this [1]: https://qutebrowser.org/doc/help/settings.html#tabs.tabs_are_windows https://qutebrowser.org/doc/help/settings.html#tabs.tabs_are...
- prmoustache 3y ago
  It should. Browser developers started introducing tabs because OS like Microsoft Windows and Mac OS were lagging in term of UX but that doesn't mean this is where it should ideally go. This was just bandaid.
_23sd 3y ago
Part of the reason is that this is a macOS browser. macOS's window management is a joke. But I think I'd use the tab tiling on Linux too, I do a lot of work with tiled browser windows and it's great, but also sucks when you want to have a window very small horizontally and the browser's UI gets squished along with any extension menus you're trying to use. Arc doesn't have that problem, you always have access to the full UI.
- square_usual 3y ago
  Arc specifically has that problem. I use a tiling window manager on macOS (guess what, they exist!) and Arc doesn't play nice with it, specifically because of the vertical-only tab bar.
thiht 3y ago
Because I disagree on that
- jdgoesmarching 3y ago
  This made me laugh, it’s a perfect response to someone stating a preference as if it were a law of computing.
perryizgr8 3y ago
Because it works better like this.
- prmoustache 3y ago
  On a desktop with a shitty UX. Using the lowest common denominator doesn't help.

zsims 3y ago

Doesn't that argument apply to tabs also? Eg IE6 days where there were no tabs, and everything was deferred to the OS/desktop window management. It was clunky and painful.

skulk 3y ago
I consider that an indictment of window management, not browser UIs. I used [0] to use EXWM + qutebrowser in tabs_are_windows [1] mode. Being able to switch between tabs/open files/IRC rooms/whatever else emacs can do with fuzzy buffer searching felt like computer enlightenment. [0]: EXWM runs in emacs's normal lisp environment which sometimes blocks the thread that EXWM listens for events on... this is obviously untenable and I never got around to finding out how to avoid this [1]: https://qutebrowser.org/doc/help/settings.html#tabs.tabs_are_windows https://qutebrowser.org/doc/help/settings.html#tabs.tabs_are...
prmoustache 3y ago
It should. Browser developers started introducing tabs because OS like Microsoft Windows and Mac OS were lagging in term of UX but that doesn't mean this is where it should ideally go. This was just bandaid.

_23sd 3y ago

Part of the reason is that this is a macOS browser. macOS's window management is a joke. But I think I'd use the tab tiling on Linux too, I do a lot of work with tiled browser windows and it's great, but also sucks when you want to have a window very small horizontally and the browser's UI gets squished along with any extension menus you're trying to use. Arc doesn't have that problem, you always have access to the full UI.

square_usual 3y ago
Arc specifically has that problem. I use a tiling window manager on macOS (guess what, they exist!) and Arc doesn't play nice with it, specifically because of the vertical-only tab bar.

thiht 3y ago

Because I disagree on that

jdgoesmarching 3y ago
This made me laugh, it’s a perfect response to someone stating a preference as if it were a law of computing.

perryizgr8 3y ago

Because it works better like this.

prmoustache 3y ago
On a desktop with a shitty UX. Using the lowest common denominator doesn't help.