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It seems like that's nearing the sweet spot of fraud prevention, where committing the act of fraud is as much work as doing the real thing.

frumper 3y ago
It sounds a lot easier to retype what you see rather than to create it.
Nickersf 3y ago
The intellectual labor of thinking about an essay, drafting it, editing, and revising it is much higher than strategically re-typing a ChatGPT output. One requires experience, knowledge, understanding and creativity, the other one requires basic functioning of motor skills and senses. You could program a robot to re-type the ChatGPT output into a different word processor and feed it parameters to make the duration between keystrokes and backspaces fluctuate over time. You could even have it stop, come back later, copy and paste sections and re-organize as it moves through and end up with the final essay from ChatGPT.
TulliusCicero 3y ago
Doesn't sound like it to me. Researching a topic can be a lot of effort, while typing is easy, even with occasional rephrasing. Hell, even with constant rephrasing it's not very hard.
- horsawlarway 3y ago
  Having a student sit there and type out, word for word, a decent essay on the subject is probably fairly effective education for a LOT of subjects. In the same vein that letting students write calculator programs to do the quadratic formula for them during a test is actually a pretty good way to get them to learn the quadratic formula. It's not an exact equivalent to the intent of an essay today - from an education perspective - but it's not a complete miss either.
  - TulliusCicero 3y ago
    It's better than nothing, sure, but nowhere close to as good as doing the research and formulating the ideas yourself.
fastball 3y ago
Not when someone creates a browser extension that you run while using Google Docs, feed the entire ChatGPT doc into it and it recreates the doc over a 2 hour period with small bits and pieces.

frumper 3y ago

It sounds a lot easier to retype what you see rather than to create it.

Nickersf 3y ago

The intellectual labor of thinking about an essay, drafting it, editing, and revising it is much higher than strategically re-typing a ChatGPT output. One requires experience, knowledge, understanding and creativity, the other one requires basic functioning of motor skills and senses. You could program a robot to re-type the ChatGPT output into a different word processor and feed it parameters to make the duration between keystrokes and backspaces fluctuate over time. You could even have it stop, come back later, copy and paste sections and re-organize as it moves through and end up with the final essay from ChatGPT.

TulliusCicero 3y ago

Doesn't sound like it to me. Researching a topic can be a lot of effort, while typing is easy, even with occasional rephrasing. Hell, even with constant rephrasing it's not very hard.

horsawlarway 3y ago
Having a student sit there and type out, word for word, a decent essay on the subject is probably fairly effective education for a LOT of subjects. In the same vein that letting students write calculator programs to do the quadratic formula for them during a test is actually a pretty good way to get them to learn the quadratic formula. It's not an exact equivalent to the intent of an essay today - from an education perspective - but it's not a complete miss either.
- TulliusCicero 3y ago
  It's better than nothing, sure, but nowhere close to as good as doing the research and formulating the ideas yourself.

fastball 3y ago

Not when someone creates a browser extension that you run while using Google Docs, feed the entire ChatGPT doc into it and it recreates the doc over a 2 hour period with small bits and pieces.