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Where is electricity that cheap? In California were paying about $0.36 which makes charging my Chevy Volt more expensive than gasoline if gas is under $4. Peop

Where is electricity that cheap? In California were paying about $0.36 which makes charging my Chevy Volt more expensive than gasoline if gas is under $4. People with plugin Priuses actually need gas to be $5 or higher for plugging in to payoff at my energy costs. Californias love complaining our fuel costs 30% more than most states. Yet most don't know our electricity is 300% more.

iwanttocomment 3y ago
Austin. Fully loaded - all electrical costs and monthly surcharges - we're still paying <$80/m for our (detached) house and both cars. Obviously summer costs are way higher than winter costs here. (We have a high-efficiency HVAC system installed 2018, decent windows and various efficiency improvements, thank god.) We bought our BEV in California and were on Schedule EV with PG&E, and it was always a delicate dance of "charging at the right time" to make things cheap. Here, our EVs just don't cost us much.
- heattemp99 3y ago
  If I leave my home unattended for a month on vacation, but leave my fridge and water heater going, my gas and electric cost is about $70. California is a special place.
  - iwanttocomment 3y ago
    Used to live there! Don't any more, for good reason.
    - lockhouse 3y ago
      Just remember to vote accordingly, don’t California Texas on us!
exhilaration 3y ago
Check out this comment from 4 months back by a guy that's paying $0.08/kWh in Georgia: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35063397 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35063397 I just signed up for $0.0949/kWh in Pennsylvania, but I'm paying a little bit extra for that feel-good wind power.
JohnFen 3y ago
> Where is electricity that cheap? It's even cheaper in my part of my state: 0.029/KWh
gpapilion 3y ago
Yes power in CA is expensive, and might be right for a Volt. However, here is a comparison of a Polestar 2 using $0.36 electricity: Full charge (.36 * 78kwh) = 28.08 Range = 276 mi Cost of fuel per mile = $0.10 Subaru Outback Full tank of gas (ca avg 4.89 18.5 gallon capacity) = 90.46 Range = 476 mi Cost of fuel per mile = $0.19 Its still almost half the cost of gas. That said, experientially at times it feels more expensive. Also, there are rate plans that move the cost lower to something like $0.21 instead, which really relies on you managing your charging times.
slotrans 3y ago
$0.084/kWh in Colorado (in summer, lower in winter)
amanaplanacanal 3y ago
I’m up in Oregon, and I pay .076, verified 95% carbon free. The rest is probably mostly renewable, just not guaranteed.

iwanttocomment 3y ago

Austin. Fully loaded - all electrical costs and monthly surcharges - we're still paying <$80/m for our (detached) house and both cars. Obviously summer costs are way higher than winter costs here. (We have a high-efficiency HVAC system installed 2018, decent windows and various efficiency improvements, thank god.) We bought our BEV in California and were on Schedule EV with PG&E, and it was always a delicate dance of "charging at the right time" to make things cheap. Here, our EVs just don't cost us much.

heattemp99 3y ago
If I leave my home unattended for a month on vacation, but leave my fridge and water heater going, my gas and electric cost is about $70. California is a special place.
- iwanttocomment 3y ago
  Used to live there! Don't any more, for good reason.
  - lockhouse 3y ago
    Just remember to vote accordingly, don’t California Texas on us!

exhilaration 3y ago

Check out this comment from 4 months back by a guy that's paying $0.08/kWh in Georgia: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35063397 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35063397 I just signed up for $0.0949/kWh in Pennsylvania, but I'm paying a little bit extra for that feel-good wind power.

JohnFen 3y ago

> Where is electricity that cheap? It's even cheaper in my part of my state: 0.029/KWh

gpapilion 3y ago

Yes power in CA is expensive, and might be right for a Volt. However, here is a comparison of a Polestar 2 using $0.36 electricity: Full charge (.36 * 78kwh) = 28.08 Range = 276 mi Cost of fuel per mile = $0.10 Subaru Outback Full tank of gas (ca avg 4.89 18.5 gallon capacity) = 90.46 Range = 476 mi Cost of fuel per mile = $0.19 Its still almost half the cost of gas. That said, experientially at times it feels more expensive. Also, there are rate plans that move the cost lower to something like $0.21 instead, which really relies on you managing your charging times.

slotrans 3y ago

$0.084/kWh in Colorado (in summer, lower in winter)

amanaplanacanal 3y ago

I’m up in Oregon, and I pay .076, verified 95% carbon free. The rest is probably mostly renewable, just not guaranteed.