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I can't tell you how many patients we have that are obese, have knee or back pain, we fix it, and they come back ~1 year with knee or back pain.

Clubber 3y ago
Maybe you should recommend realistic treatment for their obesity. Mental and physical health. List what foods/ingredients aren't filled with sugar. Do you do that or just bitch about them still being fat every year?
- hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
  Do you honestly believe, in today's day and age, that the primary driver of obesity is lack of knowledge? I've known plenty of overweight people, and literally zero percent of them thought "Gosh, if only I'd known doughnuts were bad for me I wouldn't be so fat!"
  - Clubber 3y ago
    The "diet" industry is a $76 billion industry. You'd think with that many sales, there wouldn't be an obesity epidemic. Seems like most of the products are a big sham. It'd be nice for a doctor to assist someone rather than just bitching that they're still fat year after year. Health advise is kinda what we're paying them for ya know. >I've known plenty of overweight people, and literally zero percent of them thought "Gosh, if only I'd known doughnuts were bad for me I wouldn't be so fat!" If you think the strategy to get someone to cut 200 pounds safely and permanently is as simple as to stop eating doughnuts, it's obvious you are lacking quite a bit of knowledge on the topic yourself.
- nerdjon 3y ago
  I am a bit perplexed by your comment. We can acknowledge that many Doctors have mismanaged Obesity in the past (and still do). Shame is not a valid treatment option. But if social media is any indication (and thats a big if, I don't personally know any doctors to confirm or deny if this is really the case) than there is also a disturbing trend of people not wanting to talk about this with their doctor. Of it being noted in their records to not talk about their weight. Which I don't understand, do I love it when I go to the doctor and and I am told they would like me to loose some weight? No. At least at the doctor I am at that actually leads into a discussion about diet, activity, etc. But to ignore it is doing me a disservice. Like I can't imagine any other thing about my health telling my doctor, I don't want to talk about that and let's ignore it. At best if there are multiple things we need to talk about, we put a pin in it and say we will make a future appointment for it. Also... Health, diet, etc are all complex things and it isn't as simple as "filled with sugar".
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    Most fat people know they are fat, and know that "fixing" it means eating less and exercising more. Why waste what precious moments you can afford to see your doctor with talk that you both know is unproductive? Until doctors develop better strategies around helping someone manage their problematic relationship with food, which is better handled by therapy, fat people don't benefit from a yearly reminder that they are fat and unhealthy.
flappyeagle 3y ago
What does it mean to fix it?
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  The pain stops and they regain functionality.
  - flappyeagle 3y ago
    How do you do that generally? Drugs? PT?

Clubber 3y ago

Maybe you should recommend realistic treatment for their obesity. Mental and physical health. List what foods/ingredients aren't filled with sugar. Do you do that or just bitch about them still being fat every year?

hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
Do you honestly believe, in today's day and age, that the primary driver of obesity is lack of knowledge? I've known plenty of overweight people, and literally zero percent of them thought "Gosh, if only I'd known doughnuts were bad for me I wouldn't be so fat!"
- Clubber 3y ago
  The "diet" industry is a $76 billion industry. You'd think with that many sales, there wouldn't be an obesity epidemic. Seems like most of the products are a big sham. It'd be nice for a doctor to assist someone rather than just bitching that they're still fat year after year. Health advise is kinda what we're paying them for ya know. >I've known plenty of overweight people, and literally zero percent of them thought "Gosh, if only I'd known doughnuts were bad for me I wouldn't be so fat!" If you think the strategy to get someone to cut 200 pounds safely and permanently is as simple as to stop eating doughnuts, it's obvious you are lacking quite a bit of knowledge on the topic yourself.
nerdjon 3y ago
I am a bit perplexed by your comment. We can acknowledge that many Doctors have mismanaged Obesity in the past (and still do). Shame is not a valid treatment option. But if social media is any indication (and thats a big if, I don't personally know any doctors to confirm or deny if this is really the case) than there is also a disturbing trend of people not wanting to talk about this with their doctor. Of it being noted in their records to not talk about their weight. Which I don't understand, do I love it when I go to the doctor and and I am told they would like me to loose some weight? No. At least at the doctor I am at that actually leads into a discussion about diet, activity, etc. But to ignore it is doing me a disservice. Like I can't imagine any other thing about my health telling my doctor, I don't want to talk about that and let's ignore it. At best if there are multiple things we need to talk about, we put a pin in it and say we will make a future appointment for it. Also... Health, diet, etc are all complex things and it isn't as simple as "filled with sugar".
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  Most fat people know they are fat, and know that "fixing" it means eating less and exercising more. Why waste what precious moments you can afford to see your doctor with talk that you both know is unproductive? Until doctors develop better strategies around helping someone manage their problematic relationship with food, which is better handled by therapy, fat people don't benefit from a yearly reminder that they are fat and unhealthy.

flappyeagle 3y ago

What does it mean to fix it?

hospitalJail 3y ago
The pain stops and they regain functionality.
- flappyeagle 3y ago
  How do you do that generally? Drugs? PT?