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My first job was with a "we are a family" company, they used stupid names for the employees internally but also in the job post, together with an emoji spam tha

My first job was with a "we are a family" company, they used stupid names for the employees internally but also in the job post, together with an emoji spam that couldn't say "how you do fellow kids?" any harder, ask to "see yourself like an entrepreneur" and "be the leader of your own ideas" obviously taking far less than the actual company owners. After a while I had to resign due to mental health problem manifesting as depression and burnout to the point where I couldn't even enjoy my favorite video games. I started therapy which hasn't been going as well as I would like but that's another subject. A month ago I talked to a colleague to see how they're doing. He informed me that another guy left 1 week after I did, but the best part is how he told me that "unlike you at least he gave a 2 week notice". To this day I still wonder if I was really the one unprofessional and that I should just force myself to "work". And I use quotes because I don't know how anyone would expect someone who literally have to force himself to get up from the bed and brush his teeth to be productive. I'm not the kind of person who sees himself as unprofessional and if I had no health problems interrupting my daily life I'd have no issues upholding the 2 week notice. Turns out there is such a thing as a toxic family.

hirako2000 3y ago
Some employers like to "adopt" candidates and brainwash them to them bond to the organisation. Of course that's just smoke and as time goes it takes a toll on mental health, way before things have become clear that your only family is your kin.
- BizarroLand 3y ago
  Well, times have changed, and vampires have changed too. Instead of ravenously draining the life from your body and swallowing your final screams like pez, we've taken a more egalitarian approach of slowly crushing the life out of thousands of people simultaneously, but also giving them time to recover so we can get as much delicious pain juice as possible.
randomuser23423 3y ago
> To this day I still wonder if I was really the one unprofessional As someone who has been in a similar place, I wouldn't think this would be any less professional than if you got in an auto accident, had to be bed-bound for several months, the company couldn't let you work remotely and you had to leave. Depression's a bitch, it makes you want to not seek out care and makes you more likely to interpret anything in the most negative way. Try to not be too hard on yourself for how you had to handle yourself, for all you know those two extra weeks could have caused you to need to be hospitalized or slowed down treatment.
that_guy_iain 3y ago
Here is my takeaway from this. This was your first and only job. (Therapy is still on going and a month ago you asked what is happening and got some feedback about someone else quitting.) Which is why you don't understand the 2 weeks notice isn't just for you to be productive but to help hand things over. Realistically, your former colleagues probably had to figure out what you had done and not done. This will leave a nasty after taste. My understanding is that 2 weeks notice is more of a being nice and not actually required. Most companies won't give you any more notice than they're legally required to. Therefore, I have no problem with people giving them the legally minimum notice. But overall, you'll find there are many times where you just need to force yourself to work. This is probably a skill you should learn if you need a job to survive.
- skrebbel 3y ago
  Seriously? GP goes into a burnout at job #1 and your takeaway is “you should’ve worked harder”?
  - stronglikedan 3y ago
    They should have put in the two weeks at least. Not because the company deserves it, but because the world is smaller that you think. A lot of companies won't even take you up on the notice, but it's best to give it, and give the two weeks if they do take you up on it.
    - the_af 3y ago
      > They should have put in the two weeks at least. And work through two additional weeks without the strength to even brush their teeth? Doesn't seem realistic to me.
      - stronglikedan 3y ago
        They should have never let themselves get to that place to begin with, but it's not the company's fault, so they shouldn't punish the company. They should own their mistake and push through. Or don't, and realize that it may come back to bite them. And if it does, they should realize that they are solely to blame. And yes, I've been there. Burnt out, depressed, you name it. It's always possible to muster up the energy to do the right thing.
rewmie 3y ago
> To this day I still wonder if I was really the one unprofessional and that I should just force myself to "work". I've grown to interpret "unprofessional" in the scope of resignations as code-word for "it inconveniences your manager". Your higher-ups aren't fending accusations of being unprofessional for fostering hostile work environments that are hazardous to their employees' health. Why should you fend off similar accusations for avoiding the harm they are doing to their workforce? Complaining how an employee dismisses himself is particularly hypocritical when it happens in jurisdictions where at-will employment is the norm.
wonderwonder 3y ago
meh, does the company give people 2 weeks notice when they are laid off or fired? If the answer is no then why do they deserve better treatment? Companies expect all the good things from their employees but are not expected to reciprocate.

hirako2000 3y ago

Some employers like to "adopt" candidates and brainwash them to them bond to the organisation. Of course that's just smoke and as time goes it takes a toll on mental health, way before things have become clear that your only family is your kin.

BizarroLand 3y ago
Well, times have changed, and vampires have changed too. Instead of ravenously draining the life from your body and swallowing your final screams like pez, we've taken a more egalitarian approach of slowly crushing the life out of thousands of people simultaneously, but also giving them time to recover so we can get as much delicious pain juice as possible.

randomuser23423 3y ago

> To this day I still wonder if I was really the one unprofessional As someone who has been in a similar place, I wouldn't think this would be any less professional than if you got in an auto accident, had to be bed-bound for several months, the company couldn't let you work remotely and you had to leave. Depression's a bitch, it makes you want to not seek out care and makes you more likely to interpret anything in the most negative way. Try to not be too hard on yourself for how you had to handle yourself, for all you know those two extra weeks could have caused you to need to be hospitalized or slowed down treatment.

that_guy_iain 3y ago

Here is my takeaway from this. This was your first and only job. (Therapy is still on going and a month ago you asked what is happening and got some feedback about someone else quitting.) Which is why you don't understand the 2 weeks notice isn't just for you to be productive but to help hand things over. Realistically, your former colleagues probably had to figure out what you had done and not done. This will leave a nasty after taste. My understanding is that 2 weeks notice is more of a being nice and not actually required. Most companies won't give you any more notice than they're legally required to. Therefore, I have no problem with people giving them the legally minimum notice. But overall, you'll find there are many times where you just need to force yourself to work. This is probably a skill you should learn if you need a job to survive.

skrebbel 3y ago
Seriously? GP goes into a burnout at job #1 and your takeaway is “you should’ve worked harder”?
- stronglikedan 3y ago
  They should have put in the two weeks at least. Not because the company deserves it, but because the world is smaller that you think. A lot of companies won't even take you up on the notice, but it's best to give it, and give the two weeks if they do take you up on it.
  - the_af 3y ago
    > They should have put in the two weeks at least. And work through two additional weeks without the strength to even brush their teeth? Doesn't seem realistic to me.
    - stronglikedan 3y ago
      They should have never let themselves get to that place to begin with, but it's not the company's fault, so they shouldn't punish the company. They should own their mistake and push through. Or don't, and realize that it may come back to bite them. And if it does, they should realize that they are solely to blame. And yes, I've been there. Burnt out, depressed, you name it. It's always possible to muster up the energy to do the right thing.

rewmie 3y ago

> To this day I still wonder if I was really the one unprofessional and that I should just force myself to "work". I've grown to interpret "unprofessional" in the scope of resignations as code-word for "it inconveniences your manager". Your higher-ups aren't fending accusations of being unprofessional for fostering hostile work environments that are hazardous to their employees' health. Why should you fend off similar accusations for avoiding the harm they are doing to their workforce? Complaining how an employee dismisses himself is particularly hypocritical when it happens in jurisdictions where at-will employment is the norm.

wonderwonder 3y ago

meh, does the company give people 2 weeks notice when they are laid off or fired? If the answer is no then why do they deserve better treatment? Companies expect all the good things from their employees but are not expected to reciprocate.