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If you can imagine the difference between hiring one single developer to work on your application vs. hiring dozens of different developers each to handle some

If you can imagine the difference between hiring one single developer to work on your application vs. hiring dozens of different developers each to handle some small part of it...and it's still worse than that. Typically the person "hired" is the senior and the person doing the work is _extremely_ green.

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baristaGeek 3y ago
Oh yeah, if you're talking about dev shops, don't hire dev shops (the "hired" VS extremely green person phenomenon you're talking about happens in these kinds of companies because their incentive is to sell hours/men, instead of actual value). Do your diligence, and your technical/communication/leadership interviews to make sure you're hiring the right person. And if it doesn't work out after 2-3 months, fire the person. It happens in all formats of work whether it's remote, hybrid, or onsite.
- Aurornis 3y ago
  > It happens in all formats of work whether it's remote, hybrid, or onsite. You're not wrong, but it's missing the point. It's so much harder and riskier to do this onsite that it's not very common. Why anyone would try to do this onsite instead of getting a remote job to do it is beyond me. With remote, a group of people can defraud multiple companies at the same time this way. They can do it all remotely, which means they can do it without stepping into the legal jurisdiction of the company. Remote opens the doors to so much more fraud. There is almost no comparison between someone doing this on-site and someone from a foreign country scamming companies as their job.
  - baristaGeek 3y ago
    Your objection is valid, and I'm sure someone at these international payroll companies would be able to answer it much better than I can. Regardless, the benefits are much larger.

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If you can imagine the difference between hiring one single developer to work on your application vs. hiring dozens of different developers each to handle some

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baristaGeek 3y ago
Oh yeah, if you're talking about dev shops, don't hire dev shops (the "hired" VS extremely green person phenomenon you're talking about happens in these kinds of companies because their incentive is to sell hours/men, instead of actual value). Do your diligence, and your technical/communication/leadership interviews to make sure you're hiring the right person. And if it doesn't work out after 2-3 months, fire the person. It happens in all formats of work whether it's remote, hybrid, or onsite.
- Aurornis 3y ago
  > It happens in all formats of work whether it's remote, hybrid, or onsite. You're not wrong, but it's missing the point. It's so much harder and riskier to do this onsite that it's not very common. Why anyone would try to do this onsite instead of getting a remote job to do it is beyond me. With remote, a group of people can defraud multiple companies at the same time this way. They can do it all remotely, which means they can do it without stepping into the legal jurisdiction of the company. Remote opens the doors to so much more fraud. There is almost no comparison between someone doing this on-site and someone from a foreign country scamming companies as their job.
  - baristaGeek 3y ago
    Your objection is valid, and I'm sure someone at these international payroll companies would be able to answer it much better than I can. Regardless, the benefits are much larger.