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More of this from the aging generations, huh? https://exhibits.library.duke.edu/exhibits/show/comic-book-cultures/50s https://exhibits.library.duke.edu/exhibit

More of this from the aging generations, huh? https://exhibits.library.duke.edu/exhibits/show/comic-book-cultures/50s https://exhibits.library.duke.edu/exhibits/show/comic-book-c... Same with jazz, DnD, same with rock music, same with rap No one seems to have much rage for the environment, just their mind palace

klyrs 3y ago
Do you have a cogent argument as to why technofeudalism is either not sweeping the world, or is ultimately beneficial to its serfs?
- sameOldPpl 3y ago
  “Light my strawman on fire for me.” Grandpa’s definitions do not need to be our definitions. People are playing some banal brinksmanship game “oooh that fall afoul of some vague mutable truth we’ve been conditioned to believe is immutable; get im fellas!” What are you all going to do to STOP the problems? Debating the diagnosis is allowing it to spread. Only real change in agency will stop it and no one seems into that. So why sit here thinking answering your questions is useful?
  - DirkH 3y ago
    Last I checked there is a thriving techno-political culture of decentralization and privacy rights fighting this. A lot of people are in fact doing a lot. Don't worry kiddo! The adults are working on it even if it seems futile. FYI it isn't a strawman to ask whether you have a cogent argument for why technofeudalism isn't happening. You asserted the proposition that technofeudalism isn't a thing (strongly implied) The respondent didn't construct a superficially similar proposition (I.e. a strawman) and simply asked what support you have for your proposition. A strawman would have been like if someone argued against your proposition that "But the Snowden leaks showed we live in a surveillance state!" This is a Strawman because it constructs a superficially similar position to "technofeudalism is a thing" without actually at all arguing against the position that technofeudalism is not a thing.
- deleted 3y ago
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- infoislocal 3y ago
  For the same reason German has not swept the world. Light from one “edge” of the universe has yet to reach the edge directly across from Same reason we need shifts in gravity to detect planets Diffusion, attenuation of signal given all the other stuff are physical properties of the universe, they’re properties in us The universe prefers tribalism; a quasar far off over there, neutron star far off over there. There are a lot of meat suits who refuse to propagate the signal. Doesn’t mean it won’t shine bright in some local part of space.
- dingnuts 3y ago
  First you'll have to define what you mean by "technofeudalism"
  - klyrs 3y ago
    Do you find the article's definition lacking?
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
> No one seems to have much rage for the environment, just their mind palace Even so, are we better off if people decide to stop driving, however misguided their reasons?
- sameOldPpl 3y ago
  None of this is divine mandate. What is “freedom” is not immutable but a contemporary observation. Is the future better of setting themselves aside to clean up after us? Are they not allowed to be free from our mess? One unique in the history of the species. Why is today free from the consequences they put upon tomorrow? The long term investment in us is actually selfish. It’s akin to expecting our religion to be the next generations
jrflowers 3y ago
This is a good point. Costly recalls and cybersecurity vulnerabilities in your car are actually enjoyable to young people. Having your car stolen by anybody with a USB cable is exactly the same as rap music.
DirkH 3y ago
TIL my concern that Big Tech is progressively centralizing power to the detriment of society writ large is exactly as shortsighted and dumb a fear like the moral panic that DnD is satanic. /s

klyrs 3y ago

Do you have a cogent argument as to why technofeudalism is either not sweeping the world, or is ultimately beneficial to its serfs?

sameOldPpl 3y ago
“Light my strawman on fire for me.” Grandpa’s definitions do not need to be our definitions. People are playing some banal brinksmanship game “oooh that fall afoul of some vague mutable truth we’ve been conditioned to believe is immutable; get im fellas!” What are you all going to do to STOP the problems? Debating the diagnosis is allowing it to spread. Only real change in agency will stop it and no one seems into that. So why sit here thinking answering your questions is useful?
- DirkH 3y ago
  Last I checked there is a thriving techno-political culture of decentralization and privacy rights fighting this. A lot of people are in fact doing a lot. Don't worry kiddo! The adults are working on it even if it seems futile. FYI it isn't a strawman to ask whether you have a cogent argument for why technofeudalism isn't happening. You asserted the proposition that technofeudalism isn't a thing (strongly implied) The respondent didn't construct a superficially similar proposition (I.e. a strawman) and simply asked what support you have for your proposition. A strawman would have been like if someone argued against your proposition that "But the Snowden leaks showed we live in a surveillance state!" This is a Strawman because it constructs a superficially similar position to "technofeudalism is a thing" without actually at all arguing against the position that technofeudalism is not a thing.
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infoislocal 3y ago
For the same reason German has not swept the world. Light from one “edge” of the universe has yet to reach the edge directly across from Same reason we need shifts in gravity to detect planets Diffusion, attenuation of signal given all the other stuff are physical properties of the universe, they’re properties in us The universe prefers tribalism; a quasar far off over there, neutron star far off over there. There are a lot of meat suits who refuse to propagate the signal. Doesn’t mean it won’t shine bright in some local part of space.
dingnuts 3y ago
First you'll have to define what you mean by "technofeudalism"
- klyrs 3y ago
  Do you find the article's definition lacking?

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago

> No one seems to have much rage for the environment, just their mind palace Even so, are we better off if people decide to stop driving, however misguided their reasons?

sameOldPpl 3y ago
None of this is divine mandate. What is “freedom” is not immutable but a contemporary observation. Is the future better of setting themselves aside to clean up after us? Are they not allowed to be free from our mess? One unique in the history of the species. Why is today free from the consequences they put upon tomorrow? The long term investment in us is actually selfish. It’s akin to expecting our religion to be the next generations

jrflowers 3y ago

This is a good point. Costly recalls and cybersecurity vulnerabilities in your car are actually enjoyable to young people. Having your car stolen by anybody with a USB cable is exactly the same as rap music.

DirkH 3y ago

TIL my concern that Big Tech is progressively centralizing power to the detriment of society writ large is exactly as shortsighted and dumb a fear like the moral panic that DnD is satanic. /s