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It's weird. I feel like you can get more done at an office at times... but then there's also a lot of downtime. Also the commute is always killer. I honestly

by robswc 3y ago

It's weird. I feel like you can get more done at an office at times... but then there's also a lot of downtime. Also the commute is always killer. I honestly believe people work better when they get dressed and have some routine. No idea how people can work in their PJs, I'd feel so lazy, lol. However. The commute is killer. Even if you get it down to just 15 min. (which is hard unless you live right next to work) that's 30 min. a day. Prob adds up to well over 100 hrs a year just commuting. I know some ppl do public transport with an audio book or something but for me, that's still 100 hours commuting. If I could teleport to the office, I'd say in person 60/40 split. Since I have to commute, remote all the way except for important kick offs or brainstorming sessions.

acuozzo 3y ago
> Even if you get it down to just 15 min. (which is hard unless you live right next to work) that's 30 min. a day. Prob adds up to well over 100 hrs a year just commuting. I need my morning commute. It's a kind of forced meditation that I can't get at home with three young children. It would stress me out if I couldn't work a flexible schedule or if I had to deal with rush-hour, so I'm thankful that these stars aligned for me.
- robswc 3y ago
  That's fair, honestly gives you an advantage that you enjoy it. For me, anytime I'm commuting I feel is time I could be doing almost literally _anything_ else. My secret to getting away (its not forced though, lol) is a mini sauna. I don't really sit in there sometimes but if I say I'm going to it's everyone's clue to leave me alone haha.
  - acuozzo 3y ago
    > That's fair, honestly gives you an advantage that you enjoy it. I probably wouldn't if it were any longer, TBH. 30 minutes one-way is more-or-less my limit. It's also terrible for the environment. IDK, I have mixed feelings about the whole thing, but I do know that I need it to reset my brain before work. > My secret to getting away (its not forced though, lol) is a mini sauna. That's awesome! How mini are we talking? I've seen some tiny ones!
    - robswc 3y ago
      >How mini are we talking? I've seen some tiny ones! Size of a bucket haha. It just does steam. There's also an option to have a tent-like thing you sit in but I find it works better if I just pipe it into the shower and I can get a plastic chair and an ipad and just relax.
john-tells-all 3y ago
My commute has always been an hour each way. If the job is going well this isn't bad (podcasts and Audible), but it's a time sink. One day I realized I was falling asleep on the hour-long, 12-mile route home. (Los Angeles traffic is no joke.) I sold my car and now use metro/bus to commute, or do remote work. ps: I also can't work from home in my PJs, I "dress up" by putting on jeans :-D
wing-_-nuts 3y ago
If I could walk to the office in 15 minutes, I genuinely don't think I'd mind going in at least a few days a week. Unfortunately my actual commute would be 30-45 minutes in traffic so no thank you. I'm quite happy WFH. My apartment is kitted out better than any executive office, and best of all it's quiet.
- robswc 3y ago
  Exactly. I don't know why people seem to sleep on hybrid. Some days going into the office works better, other days WFH is better. If we just finished scoping out a project and I have dozens of programming hours, I'm def going to lock myself in my office with headphones and type away. If things are slow and I need some motivation, I think going to the office would help.
probablynish 3y ago
I think there's a big difference between a walking commute and a driving commute. I'd welcome a 15 minute walking commute each day - even while WFH I like to take a 15 minute walk up and down my road before starting my day because it helps my brain and body wake up.
- robswc 3y ago
  That's fair. I guess it comes down to routines. I love being able to wake up, walk to the gym (like 2 min away) do my exercise and be home, shower and sitting ready to work all in under an hour. 15 min walk would be 30 min of decent exercise, not bad at all.
roflyear 3y ago
I never got more done in the office. Maybe felt that way, but never realized it.
- robswc 3y ago
  I think it comes down to the person and their discipline. Ultimately, I do get more coding done at home. However, being surrounded by colleges and a "business" atmosphere motivates me to actually do the coding, its hard to explain lol. Also distractions. If you get distracted at home it can get pretty bad. At work you at least have to try.

by robswc 3y ago

acuozzo 3y ago

> Even if you get it down to just 15 min. (which is hard unless you live right next to work) that's 30 min. a day. Prob adds up to well over 100 hrs a year just commuting. I need my morning commute. It's a kind of forced meditation that I can't get at home with three young children. It would stress me out if I couldn't work a flexible schedule or if I had to deal with rush-hour, so I'm thankful that these stars aligned for me.

robswc 3y ago
That's fair, honestly gives you an advantage that you enjoy it. For me, anytime I'm commuting I feel is time I could be doing almost literally _anything_ else. My secret to getting away (its not forced though, lol) is a mini sauna. I don't really sit in there sometimes but if I say I'm going to it's everyone's clue to leave me alone haha.
- acuozzo 3y ago
  > That's fair, honestly gives you an advantage that you enjoy it. I probably wouldn't if it were any longer, TBH. 30 minutes one-way is more-or-less my limit. It's also terrible for the environment. IDK, I have mixed feelings about the whole thing, but I do know that I need it to reset my brain before work. > My secret to getting away (its not forced though, lol) is a mini sauna. That's awesome! How mini are we talking? I've seen some tiny ones!
  - robswc 3y ago
    >How mini are we talking? I've seen some tiny ones! Size of a bucket haha. It just does steam. There's also an option to have a tent-like thing you sit in but I find it works better if I just pipe it into the shower and I can get a plastic chair and an ipad and just relax.

john-tells-all 3y ago

My commute has always been an hour each way. If the job is going well this isn't bad (podcasts and Audible), but it's a time sink. One day I realized I was falling asleep on the hour-long, 12-mile route home. (Los Angeles traffic is no joke.) I sold my car and now use metro/bus to commute, or do remote work. ps: I also can't work from home in my PJs, I "dress up" by putting on jeans :-D

wing-_-nuts 3y ago

If I could walk to the office in 15 minutes, I genuinely don't think I'd mind going in at least a few days a week. Unfortunately my actual commute would be 30-45 minutes in traffic so no thank you. I'm quite happy WFH. My apartment is kitted out better than any executive office, and best of all it's quiet.

robswc 3y ago
Exactly. I don't know why people seem to sleep on hybrid. Some days going into the office works better, other days WFH is better. If we just finished scoping out a project and I have dozens of programming hours, I'm def going to lock myself in my office with headphones and type away. If things are slow and I need some motivation, I think going to the office would help.

probablynish 3y ago

I think there's a big difference between a walking commute and a driving commute. I'd welcome a 15 minute walking commute each day - even while WFH I like to take a 15 minute walk up and down my road before starting my day because it helps my brain and body wake up.

robswc 3y ago
That's fair. I guess it comes down to routines. I love being able to wake up, walk to the gym (like 2 min away) do my exercise and be home, shower and sitting ready to work all in under an hour. 15 min walk would be 30 min of decent exercise, not bad at all.

roflyear 3y ago

I never got more done in the office. Maybe felt that way, but never realized it.

robswc 3y ago
I think it comes down to the person and their discipline. Ultimately, I do get more coding done at home. However, being surrounded by colleges and a "business" atmosphere motivates me to actually do the coding, its hard to explain lol. Also distractions. If you get distracted at home it can get pretty bad. At work you at least have to try.