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I hope this trend is here to stay, I cannot even imagine of going to an office in a daily basis anymore

gumby 3y ago
Turns out to my surprise I like going into the office, but definitely not every day. Also I've only once had a commute longer than 20 minutes and it was such a burden (even though I carpooled) I gave that up after less than a year.
- ryandrake 3y ago
  Yea, I really don't mind the office. It's the "going to" part that I'm unwilling to do ever again. It's kind of nice to get a little in-person time with colleagues. The open-office system kind of sucks, but nearly every company has that now. If I could snap my fingers and teleport myself there, I'd do it often: at least any time I had a bunch of meetings and didn't have to concentrate or have work that needed silence. But it's a 3 hour drive (each way) away, so nope.
- dbcurtis 3y ago
  > Turns out to my surprise I like going into the office, but definitely not every day. Bingo. There is relationship building and other interactions that are simply not possible in any other way that I have found. I go in 3 days most weeks, and that makes a huge difference in lifestyle and flexibility. Since I work in robotics, 100% remote is never going to be a thing for me. Zoom meeting and software days, remote. Wrench days, in the lab. Works for me.
  - sillysaurusx 3y ago
    Lucky you live anywhere close to any kind of interesting work.
    - HDThoreaun 3y ago
      > Lucky Where you live is a choice, there's nothing lucky about it.
      - progbits 3y ago
        Some people prefer not to abandon their family and friends, so there is indeed luck factor involved.
- Aurornis 3y ago
  > Turns out to my surprise I like going into the office, but definitely not every day. You're not alone. The internet likes to talk about remote work as the only acceptable arrangement, but that's mostly because it's biased toward people who like socializing via internet comment sections. The number of people who actually like going to the office (either part or full time) is far higher than you'd expect from reading Reddit and Hacker News.
  - yodsanklai 3y ago
    There are many people who like going to the office, but - don't like to commute - don't like to live in the city where the office is - don't want to pay insane rents to live in a studio Personally, I quite like the office and really miss socializing but it's a tradeoff and I chose full remote.
  - ryanSrich 3y ago
    > The number of people who actually like going to the office (either part or full time) is far higher than you'd expect from reading Reddit and Hacker News. I think most people like an office setting. Even remote work proponents like myself enjoy the office every now and then. The problem is really two things. 1.) The commute is brutal. If you live in any decent sized city and have a family, it's likely that you are far enough away from the office that you have to drive 30+ minutes in pretty horrendous traffic. That's not only lost time that you could be spending with your family, or even doing work, but it's mentally exhausting. No one is refreshed in the office after a shitty commute. 2.) Often offices turn political. The dynamics of in person work can cause many issues that just don't happen when you work remote. Remote work, when done correctly, is mostly about contribution and output. In an office, low performers can outshine high performers simply by being present and seeming busy. Remote work mostly fixes this.
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    - warning26 3y ago
      > 1.) The commute is brutal. If you live in any decent sized city and have a family, it's likely that you are far enough away from the office that you have to drive 30+ minutes in pretty horrendous traffic. This is fundamentally a problem with urban design, not with in-office work.
zer8k 3y ago
I can't imagine going into an office again. I've been remote for 2/3 of my career (long before COVID). I would be happy to go to a meet up or something once a week after hours. I never want to have an open office arrangement where I am bothered CONSTANTLY again. Remote has been such a boon to my life and my productivity you'd have to pry it from my cold, dead hands.
declan_roberts 3y ago
Same! And what leverage do they truly have against us who moved away with eyes open? My mortgage is now $2k a month, about half of bay area rent. I'm more likely to try and get a $15/hr job with benefits here locally than haul my family back to the bay area.
- solarmist 3y ago
  Sadly I'm feeling the same. I loved my coworkers and the Bay Area, but it's just too expensive to be worth it.
aftergibson 3y ago
Same, I like working in the office, but my quality of life and that of my family has drastically improved since moving to remote working.
robotnikman 3y ago
Same, I work much better from home. I have a tendency to talk out loud to myself when working on something and I feel like people would think I'm a bit annoying/crazy doing that in an open office environment.

Turns out to my surprise I like going into the office, but definitely not every day. Also I've only once had a commute longer than 20 minutes and it was such a burden (even though I carpooled) I gave that up after less than a year.

ryandrake 3y ago
Yea, I really don't mind the office. It's the "going to" part that I'm unwilling to do ever again. It's kind of nice to get a little in-person time with colleagues. The open-office system kind of sucks, but nearly every company has that now. If I could snap my fingers and teleport myself there, I'd do it often: at least any time I had a bunch of meetings and didn't have to concentrate or have work that needed silence. But it's a 3 hour drive (each way) away, so nope.
dbcurtis 3y ago
> Turns out to my surprise I like going into the office, but definitely not every day. Bingo. There is relationship building and other interactions that are simply not possible in any other way that I have found. I go in 3 days most weeks, and that makes a huge difference in lifestyle and flexibility. Since I work in robotics, 100% remote is never going to be a thing for me. Zoom meeting and software days, remote. Wrench days, in the lab. Works for me.
- sillysaurusx 3y ago
  Lucky you live anywhere close to any kind of interesting work.
  - HDThoreaun 3y ago
    > Lucky Where you live is a choice, there's nothing lucky about it.
    - progbits 3y ago
      Some people prefer not to abandon their family and friends, so there is indeed luck factor involved.
Aurornis 3y ago
> Turns out to my surprise I like going into the office, but definitely not every day. You're not alone. The internet likes to talk about remote work as the only acceptable arrangement, but that's mostly because it's biased toward people who like socializing via internet comment sections. The number of people who actually like going to the office (either part or full time) is far higher than you'd expect from reading Reddit and Hacker News.
- yodsanklai 3y ago
  There are many people who like going to the office, but - don't like to commute - don't like to live in the city where the office is - don't want to pay insane rents to live in a studio Personally, I quite like the office and really miss socializing but it's a tradeoff and I chose full remote.
- ryanSrich 3y ago
  > The number of people who actually like going to the office (either part or full time) is far higher than you'd expect from reading Reddit and Hacker News. I think most people like an office setting. Even remote work proponents like myself enjoy the office every now and then. The problem is really two things. 1.) The commute is brutal. If you live in any decent sized city and have a family, it's likely that you are far enough away from the office that you have to drive 30+ minutes in pretty horrendous traffic. That's not only lost time that you could be spending with your family, or even doing work, but it's mentally exhausting. No one is refreshed in the office after a shitty commute. 2.) Often offices turn political. The dynamics of in person work can cause many issues that just don't happen when you work remote. Remote work, when done correctly, is mostly about contribution and output. In an office, low performers can outshine high performers simply by being present and seeming busy. Remote work mostly fixes this.
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  - warning26 3y ago
    > 1.) The commute is brutal. If you live in any decent sized city and have a family, it's likely that you are far enough away from the office that you have to drive 30+ minutes in pretty horrendous traffic. This is fundamentally a problem with urban design, not with in-office work.

zer8k 3y ago

I can't imagine going into an office again. I've been remote for 2/3 of my career (long before COVID). I would be happy to go to a meet up or something once a week after hours. I never want to have an open office arrangement where I am bothered CONSTANTLY again. Remote has been such a boon to my life and my productivity you'd have to pry it from my cold, dead hands.

declan_roberts 3y ago

Same! And what leverage do they truly have against us who moved away with eyes open? My mortgage is now $2k a month, about half of bay area rent. I'm more likely to try and get a $15/hr job with benefits here locally than haul my family back to the bay area.

solarmist 3y ago
Sadly I'm feeling the same. I loved my coworkers and the Bay Area, but it's just too expensive to be worth it.

aftergibson 3y ago

Same, I like working in the office, but my quality of life and that of my family has drastically improved since moving to remote working.

robotnikman 3y ago

Same, I work much better from home. I have a tendency to talk out loud to myself when working on something and I feel like people would think I'm a bit annoying/crazy doing that in an open office environment.