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This is as meta as it gets, but I learned what it sounds like when smart sounding, but closed minded people try to shut down an idea. Looking over all the old

This is as meta as it gets, but I learned what it sounds like when smart sounding, but closed minded people try to shut down an idea. Looking over all the old YC projects that ended up being wildly successful, but their HN threads were full of naysayers who are better at sounding smart on the internet than providing actual feedback. Learning to differentiate between that kind of poster and people who have genuine feedback that reflects what users actually want is invaluable.

polishdude20 3y ago
Being wildly successful doesn't mean the idea wasn't bad. There's more than money and success that some "smart" people think of when complaining about ideas on here.
- churchill 3y ago
  I think it's safe to safe you're the kind of guy bsamuels above is talking about :)
raldi 3y ago
Yeah. Living in SF, where self-driving cars are a constant daily sight, I recently went back and read a HN thread from five years ago with comments like, “I work in the industry. There’s no way you’re going to be seeing them in 5-10 years.” Someone should do a roundup of these kind of posts: the Dropbox announcement, etc
- mickael-kerjean 3y ago
  The infamous FTP top answer on the Dropbox launch is what led me to open source a solution to the Dropbox problem [1] after spending a bit too much time on the drawing board trying to understand the limit of FTP and why we couldn't have a Dropbox solution based on FTP. From that reflection I then made it work with every possible file transfer protocol you could think of. [1] https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/filestash https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/filestash
- interestica 3y ago
  There was a comment 10 years ago about Facebook's acquisition of Instagram comparing it to Google/Youtube which was especially notable because it asked readers to "check back in 2022". (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3818055 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3818055) > This is not going to be one of the best tech acquisitions of the next decade. > Instagram is a photo service in a sea of other photo services. The interesting thing to me was their comment wasn't 'wrong' per se, but just that their logic was founded on that false assessment ("photo service"). In fact, their assessment of the value/success in YouTube's acquisition could have been applied to Instagram (in that it let Facebook access a different type of image-based social sharing).
  - raldi 3y ago
    Both the YouTube and Instagram acquisitions gave me a feeling of, “This is either going to be the best acquisition of its generation or the worst.”
- NicoJuicy 3y ago
  Do you see them in bad weather? It's not about the 99% where it works. It's about the 1% where it loses the info from it's sensors and fails.
- TRiG_Ireland 3y ago
  Self-driving cars are still a terrible idea; and there's a reason why SF has famously terrible urban design.
  - arbitrage 3y ago
    > and there's a reason why SF has famously terrible urban design. ... which is?
    - TRiG_Ireland 3y ago
      Mostly, a lack of imagination due to severe car brain.
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mattbrewsbytes 3y ago
Wildly successful is kinda vague and subjective. Successful as a business is one thing, mass market adoption is another thing, both can happen but are they both "wildly successful"?
nithayakumar 3y ago
I was going to come here and say exactly this at the risk of being flamed. Love seeing this at the top
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mattgreenrocks 3y ago
Yep. This is why HN comments (and the site as a whole) have a bad rep among some of the tech crowd, esp the derisive references to the “orange site.” To be clear: it is a culture issue, not a moderation issue. dang does a fine job of moderating. The problem is that we allow the cheap takes and well-actually’s to both exist and be highly visible via upvotes. I’m not sure HN at large really wants to fix this, unfortunately. It is pervasive and largely unchecked.

polishdude20 3y ago

Being wildly successful doesn't mean the idea wasn't bad. There's more than money and success that some "smart" people think of when complaining about ideas on here.

churchill 3y ago
I think it's safe to safe you're the kind of guy bsamuels above is talking about :)

raldi 3y ago

Yeah. Living in SF, where self-driving cars are a constant daily sight, I recently went back and read a HN thread from five years ago with comments like, “I work in the industry. There’s no way you’re going to be seeing them in 5-10 years.” Someone should do a roundup of these kind of posts: the Dropbox announcement, etc

mickael-kerjean 3y ago
The infamous FTP top answer on the Dropbox launch is what led me to open source a solution to the Dropbox problem [1] after spending a bit too much time on the drawing board trying to understand the limit of FTP and why we couldn't have a Dropbox solution based on FTP. From that reflection I then made it work with every possible file transfer protocol you could think of. [1] https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/filestash https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/filestash
interestica 3y ago
There was a comment 10 years ago about Facebook's acquisition of Instagram comparing it to Google/Youtube which was especially notable because it asked readers to "check back in 2022". (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3818055 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3818055) > This is not going to be one of the best tech acquisitions of the next decade. > Instagram is a photo service in a sea of other photo services. The interesting thing to me was their comment wasn't 'wrong' per se, but just that their logic was founded on that false assessment ("photo service"). In fact, their assessment of the value/success in YouTube's acquisition could have been applied to Instagram (in that it let Facebook access a different type of image-based social sharing).
- raldi 3y ago
  Both the YouTube and Instagram acquisitions gave me a feeling of, “This is either going to be the best acquisition of its generation or the worst.”
NicoJuicy 3y ago
Do you see them in bad weather? It's not about the 99% where it works. It's about the 1% where it loses the info from it's sensors and fails.
TRiG_Ireland 3y ago
Self-driving cars are still a terrible idea; and there's a reason why SF has famously terrible urban design.
- arbitrage 3y ago
  > and there's a reason why SF has famously terrible urban design. ... which is?
  - TRiG_Ireland 3y ago
    Mostly, a lack of imagination due to severe car brain.

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mattbrewsbytes 3y ago

Wildly successful is kinda vague and subjective. Successful as a business is one thing, mass market adoption is another thing, both can happen but are they both "wildly successful"?

nithayakumar 3y ago

I was going to come here and say exactly this at the risk of being flamed. Love seeing this at the top

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mattgreenrocks 3y ago

Yep. This is why HN comments (and the site as a whole) have a bad rep among some of the tech crowd, esp the derisive references to the “orange site.” To be clear: it is a culture issue, not a moderation issue. dang does a fine job of moderating. The problem is that we allow the cheap takes and well-actually’s to both exist and be highly visible via upvotes. I’m not sure HN at large really wants to fix this, unfortunately. It is pervasive and largely unchecked.