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> The Venn diagram of people at the forefront of ML/LLM, and its advocates, is almost entirely separate from the web/crypto sphere. There is astonishingly littl

by NhanH 3y ago

> The Venn diagram of people at the forefront of ML/LLM, and its advocates, is almost entirely separate from the web/crypto sphere. There is astonishingly little overlap That statement seems false. Especially since this was a headline I saw in half a dozen online news in my country yesterday. > OpenAI's Sam Altman launches Worldcoin crypto project[0] If anything, even without taking into account the greed stuff, people who are drawn to fun tech is likely to be drawn to both LLM and cryptocurrency stuffs. [0]https://www.reuters.com/technology/openais-sam-altman-launches-worldcoin-crypto-project-2023-07-24/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/openais-sam-altman-launch...

llm_nerd 3y ago
Me - "Little overlap" You - "That's false because I saw a thing about this one guy doing some thing" Okay... "even without taking into account the greed stuff," What "greed stuff"? It is incredibly hard to make money in LLMs/ML. The barriers to entry are colossal, and it is technically extremely difficult. Everyone keeps talking about all the "grifters" (a go to term that usually means the speaker's arguments can be dismissed) yet there are very, very few people making money in AI. The biggest money maker in AI is nvidia and some cloud providers. You can't just fork BTC or create a Ethereum contract and spin off another shitcoin and make free money. You can't do a rug pull. You can try to create an incredibly difficult niche solution and yield some excitement, but that's like all of technology ever. Comparing it with crypto is dumb. "people who are drawn to fun tech is likely to be drawn to both LLM and cryptocurrency stuffs" Loads of people who like to know what's up became acquainted with both. Sure. Understanding tech makes sense. And a lot of us learned crypto, realized it had extraordinarily little real-world utility or benefit, and moved on.
- obiefernandez 3y ago
  I can assure you that the smart folks running daily AI newsletters are currently raking in money hand over fist. It’s awe inspiring.
  - llm_nerd 3y ago
    Such as? Can you give some examples? There are some very smart people working incredibly hard, yielding some rewards from it. It is a tiny, tiny set.
    - obiefernandez 3y ago
      Recently paid 500 usd to TheresAnAIforThat for one link in their newsletter. They feature at least 5-10 per day. Decent money for a one man operation that’s “generated by AI”

by NhanH 3y ago

llm_nerd 3y ago

Me - "Little overlap" You - "That's false because I saw a thing about this one guy doing some thing" Okay... "even without taking into account the greed stuff," What "greed stuff"? It is incredibly hard to make money in LLMs/ML. The barriers to entry are colossal, and it is technically extremely difficult. Everyone keeps talking about all the "grifters" (a go to term that usually means the speaker's arguments can be dismissed) yet there are very, very few people making money in AI. The biggest money maker in AI is nvidia and some cloud providers. You can't just fork BTC or create a Ethereum contract and spin off another shitcoin and make free money. You can't do a rug pull. You can try to create an incredibly difficult niche solution and yield some excitement, but that's like all of technology ever. Comparing it with crypto is dumb. "people who are drawn to fun tech is likely to be drawn to both LLM and cryptocurrency stuffs" Loads of people who like to know what's up became acquainted with both. Sure. Understanding tech makes sense. And a lot of us learned crypto, realized it had extraordinarily little real-world utility or benefit, and moved on.

obiefernandez 3y ago
I can assure you that the smart folks running daily AI newsletters are currently raking in money hand over fist. It’s awe inspiring.
- llm_nerd 3y ago
  Such as? Can you give some examples? There are some very smart people working incredibly hard, yielding some rewards from it. It is a tiny, tiny set.
  - obiefernandez 3y ago
    Recently paid 500 usd to TheresAnAIforThat for one link in their newsletter. They feature at least 5-10 per day. Decent money for a one man operation that’s “generated by AI”