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> It will be a slow descent for reddit, but if you take the "rule" of social media that splits content creators/active participants/lurkers as 1/9/90%, and if w

by shagie 3y ago

> It will be a slow descent for reddit, but if you take the "rule" of social media that splits content creators/active participants/lurkers as 1/9/90%, and if we assume that a substantial amount of the 1% is moving away from reddit, then it stands to reason that the other 99% will end up following the creators. In the domains of programming, suggesting that many of the 1% have moved away from Reddit, that is extremely optimistic... though that may be my visibility into fragmentation of communities across Lemmy. https://lemmy.ml/c/java https://programming.dev/c/java From what I've seen, the content that has taken off on Lemmy tends to be the lower effort "ask Lemmy", memes, and similar. Instances on beehaw tend to be more thriving, but this may also be a function of more active moderation... which is one of those things that people rail about being unfair and Stack Overflow over moderates (that's another thread). The people who left Reddit appear to mostly be moderators who have gotten tired of moderating rather than people who are creating content / posts / commenting on Reddit. https://programming.dev/c/cs_career_questions 290 subscribers, most recent question was 8 days ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/ 1M subscribers (yes, bots, inactive and all), 25th oldest question was 9 hours ago. There was a surge a few weeks ago (especially as people hit private subs) - but it hasn't been sustained.

rglullis 3y ago
> but it hasn't been sustained. https://fedidb.org https://fedidb.org disagrees with you. Numbers are still going up, quite strongly.
- shagie 3y ago
  In the context of Lemmy: https://fedidb.org/software/Lemmy https://fedidb.org/software/Lemmy User count from a year ago is 30k to 48k. Post count is from 181k to 241k The content on the site is memes and jokes with occasional world news. https://lemmy.ml/?dataType=Post&listingType=Local&page=1&sort=Active https://lemmy.world/?dataType=Post&listingType=Local&page=1&sort=Active I don't see this as sustained growth. Mastodon is doing quite well. Lemmy... not so much.
  - rglullis 3y ago
    Are we looking at the same data? For Lemmy, I see: TOTAL USERS: 405,020 MONTHLY ACTIVE USERS: 69,825 ACTIVE SERVERS: 1,175 TOTAL POSTS: 1,558,916 > The content on the site is memes and jokes with occasional world news. So is reddit. And you are forgetting adult content.
    - shagie 3y ago
      Adult content is the third most active Lemmy instance. https://fedidb.org/software/Lemmy https://fedidb.org/software/Lemmy I am not sure that one would claim that content creators are there rather than people copying content from various porn and making it accessible. Do the graphs on that page suggest a substantial increase in the rate of content being submitted to Lemmy instances in the past year? Memes and jokes are fine... if that's what you are after. I'll note that my /r/all page is devoid of most of them as the reddit subs that I'm on tend to not be as meme saturated. If you are after deeper discussions of programming topics or hobbies, Lemmy doesn't seem to show the sustained growth or content being added that provides for interesting reading. https://startrek.website https://startrek.website is probably the exception to this as they've maintained a rather focused set of communities and so it is easier to find content that isn't memes. I haven't been able to find an equivalent of /r/DIY, /r/boardgames, /r/soloboardgaming, /r/books, /r/factorio (and its set of subs) on Lemmy. If one wants to claim that the content creators of /r/memes have mostly left and gone to Lemmy... ok. I'm not as familiar with that subculture. If you want to say that the content creators of /r/books have left and gone to Lemmy - I have seen no indication of that happening.
      - rglullis 3y ago
        My point is that we can not expect that the migration of people will happen in clusters of specific interests, they will instead reflect the average redditor. > I haven't been able to find an equivalent of /r/DIY, /r/boardgames, /r/soloboardgaming, /r/books, /r/factorio Then, let's get to it? I created https://communick.news/c/makers https://communick.news/c/makers, it would be great to have more people helping me bootstrap it. For games, if there isn't a lemmy instance for that, I will gladly register a domain and set it up.

by shagie 3y ago

rglullis 3y ago

> but it hasn't been sustained. https://fedidb.org https://fedidb.org disagrees with you. Numbers are still going up, quite strongly.

shagie 3y ago
In the context of Lemmy: https://fedidb.org/software/Lemmy https://fedidb.org/software/Lemmy User count from a year ago is 30k to 48k. Post count is from 181k to 241k The content on the site is memes and jokes with occasional world news. https://lemmy.ml/?dataType=Post&listingType=Local&page=1&sort=Active https://lemmy.world/?dataType=Post&listingType=Local&page=1&sort=Active I don't see this as sustained growth. Mastodon is doing quite well. Lemmy... not so much.
- rglullis 3y ago
  Are we looking at the same data? For Lemmy, I see: TOTAL USERS: 405,020 MONTHLY ACTIVE USERS: 69,825 ACTIVE SERVERS: 1,175 TOTAL POSTS: 1,558,916 > The content on the site is memes and jokes with occasional world news. So is reddit. And you are forgetting adult content.
  - shagie 3y ago
    Adult content is the third most active Lemmy instance. https://fedidb.org/software/Lemmy https://fedidb.org/software/Lemmy I am not sure that one would claim that content creators are there rather than people copying content from various porn and making it accessible. Do the graphs on that page suggest a substantial increase in the rate of content being submitted to Lemmy instances in the past year? Memes and jokes are fine... if that's what you are after. I'll note that my /r/all page is devoid of most of them as the reddit subs that I'm on tend to not be as meme saturated. If you are after deeper discussions of programming topics or hobbies, Lemmy doesn't seem to show the sustained growth or content being added that provides for interesting reading. https://startrek.website https://startrek.website is probably the exception to this as they've maintained a rather focused set of communities and so it is easier to find content that isn't memes. I haven't been able to find an equivalent of /r/DIY, /r/boardgames, /r/soloboardgaming, /r/books, /r/factorio (and its set of subs) on Lemmy. If one wants to claim that the content creators of /r/memes have mostly left and gone to Lemmy... ok. I'm not as familiar with that subculture. If you want to say that the content creators of /r/books have left and gone to Lemmy - I have seen no indication of that happening.
    - rglullis 3y ago
      My point is that we can not expect that the migration of people will happen in clusters of specific interests, they will instead reflect the average redditor. > I haven't been able to find an equivalent of /r/DIY, /r/boardgames, /r/soloboardgaming, /r/books, /r/factorio Then, let's get to it? I created https://communick.news/c/makers https://communick.news/c/makers, it would be great to have more people helping me bootstrap it. For games, if there isn't a lemmy instance for that, I will gladly register a domain and set it up.