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If only there were some way the employees could band together and negotiate equitable terms of employment.

40yearoldman 3y ago
Yes. Let’s do this thing that will likely lower pay and ensure shitty engineers keep jobs they can’t do because of a horribly short sighted view that RTO is not equitable. The issues with Unions is there appears to be no way for a company to hire non union workers. Once this happens you are basically the mob. And hold the company and other employees hostage to mob rule. Which is almost always not driven by logic. There are enough remote jobs. The idea that you want a specific job at a specific place to allow you to work remotely is insane. Nobody owes you shit. Either you like the terms and work there or you don’t and find another job.
- linuxftw 3y ago
  A CBA can cover things other than wages. Many states are also right to work, so nobody has to join the union in those states. How long do you think Amazon will last as a company if their engineering department went on strike? Probably about 15 minutes. Amazon workers could really get a fair slice of the pie of they organized.
  - 40yearoldman 3y ago
    What is fair? Last I checked most Amazon engineers make 400k+.
- zarathustreal 3y ago
  What exactly is insane about wanting a software engineering job to allow you to work remotely? Obviously it’s entirely possible to do remotely, I’m curious what I’m missing that makes this insane?
  - 40yearoldman 3y ago
    Nothing insane. Its insane to expect a specific company to change its policies for your preferences. The way it is now some companies are remote others are not. They have different benefits. But what you want to do is strong arm everybody to do it your way. Some of us don’t want to work remote and don’t want to deal with those who do work remote. The way it is now allows me to work at companies that don’t offer remote and for you to work at companies that do offer remote. People demanding remote work by force with unions are basically the lady who wanes to apply Safeway and target coupons at Walmart.

Yes. Let’s do this thing that will likely lower pay and ensure shitty engineers keep jobs they can’t do because of a horribly short sighted view that RTO is not equitable. The issues with Unions is there appears to be no way for a company to hire non union workers. Once this happens you are basically the mob. And hold the company and other employees hostage to mob rule. Which is almost always not driven by logic. There are enough remote jobs. The idea that you want a specific job at a specific place to allow you to work remotely is insane. Nobody owes you shit. Either you like the terms and work there or you don’t and find another job.

linuxftw 3y ago
A CBA can cover things other than wages. Many states are also right to work, so nobody has to join the union in those states. How long do you think Amazon will last as a company if their engineering department went on strike? Probably about 15 minutes. Amazon workers could really get a fair slice of the pie of they organized.
- 40yearoldman 3y ago
  What is fair? Last I checked most Amazon engineers make 400k+.
zarathustreal 3y ago
What exactly is insane about wanting a software engineering job to allow you to work remotely? Obviously it’s entirely possible to do remotely, I’m curious what I’m missing that makes this insane?
- 40yearoldman 3y ago
  Nothing insane. Its insane to expect a specific company to change its policies for your preferences. The way it is now some companies are remote others are not. They have different benefits. But what you want to do is strong arm everybody to do it your way. Some of us don’t want to work remote and don’t want to deal with those who do work remote. The way it is now allows me to work at companies that don’t offer remote and for you to work at companies that do offer remote. People demanding remote work by force with unions are basically the lady who wanes to apply Safeway and target coupons at Walmart.