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"Don't accuse me of such BS" ^ then don't engage in actions which could be misconstrued as such. It's Poes law mfer. Also, youre shifting goalposts. Tossing

"Don't accuse me of such BS" ^ then don't engage in actions which could be misconstrued as such. It's Poes law mfer. Also, youre shifting goalposts. Tossing out herring and engaging many other fallacies. If I were a betting man, I'd put money on the probability that you are in fact being disingenuous or are a delusional fool.... Again, if you dont like that reasonable perception of you then alter the behaviors that induce said perception.

maxlin 3y ago
I think you're trying to somehow include fancy concepts and bending your arguments to fit them, which is becoming a bit silly (No, Poe's law doesn't relate to the current conversation). I am not shifting goalposts. Note that I'm not the original arguer here. I just noted that you basically doomed Elon from birth regardless of what good he's done during his life, which is a crazy weak argument. I know people who think that casually considering non-comformists delusional is reasonable. They come in many sorts, but most often its Occam's razor so I don't hate and won't get more involved. I am not disingenuous. I just hope people would cheer on the people of our time who push on innovation instead of attacking them for their money or pecularities. With enough mass just throwing lazy attacks things can only get worse for everybody.
- DropInIn 3y ago
  More deflections and thinly veiled ad homs instead of addressing the actual arguments previously presented. This is just devolving into typical troll vs antitroll bs and I'm not interested in participating. Review the thread and return to the actual arguments presented rather than continuing to avoid the actual issues raised/admitting you were wrong.
  - maxlin 3y ago
    I think you still don't realize I'm not the original arguer. I just came here to point out this: >Just a FYI your argument is that Elon got a Huge Head Start to his serial entrepreneurism just because someone in relation to him had a business 40+ years ago in South Africa. Far after which he lived almost as a destitute during his college years. Which you can't retort and makes other arguments meaningless. Which are already so badly-colored (narcissism, trying to dredge up race relations) that are not worth deliberating on for anyone's sake.
    - DropInIn 3y ago
      He got a head start through acess to better education, access to equipment others wouldn't have had (just like Gates), his fathers social snd business connections, and more, as a direct result of his father's wealth and connections. This lead to immediately improved outcomes compared to his "competitors". Seriously, this was actually already answered. Quit sealioning.

maxlin 3y ago

I think you're trying to somehow include fancy concepts and bending your arguments to fit them, which is becoming a bit silly (No, Poe's law doesn't relate to the current conversation). I am not shifting goalposts. Note that I'm not the original arguer here. I just noted that you basically doomed Elon from birth regardless of what good he's done during his life, which is a crazy weak argument. I know people who think that casually considering non-comformists delusional is reasonable. They come in many sorts, but most often its Occam's razor so I don't hate and won't get more involved. I am not disingenuous. I just hope people would cheer on the people of our time who push on innovation instead of attacking them for their money or pecularities. With enough mass just throwing lazy attacks things can only get worse for everybody.

DropInIn 3y ago
More deflections and thinly veiled ad homs instead of addressing the actual arguments previously presented. This is just devolving into typical troll vs antitroll bs and I'm not interested in participating. Review the thread and return to the actual arguments presented rather than continuing to avoid the actual issues raised/admitting you were wrong.
- maxlin 3y ago
  I think you still don't realize I'm not the original arguer. I just came here to point out this: >Just a FYI your argument is that Elon got a Huge Head Start to his serial entrepreneurism just because someone in relation to him had a business 40+ years ago in South Africa. Far after which he lived almost as a destitute during his college years. Which you can't retort and makes other arguments meaningless. Which are already so badly-colored (narcissism, trying to dredge up race relations) that are not worth deliberating on for anyone's sake.
  - DropInIn 3y ago
    He got a head start through acess to better education, access to equipment others wouldn't have had (just like Gates), his fathers social snd business connections, and more, as a direct result of his father's wealth and connections. This lead to immediately improved outcomes compared to his "competitors". Seriously, this was actually already answered. Quit sealioning.