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Other pertinent new world crops that drastically altered staple cuisines in Asia: potato, tomato, corn. Then of course there's tobacco / nicotine, and from more

Other pertinent new world crops that drastically altered staple cuisines in Asia: potato, tomato, corn. Then of course there's tobacco / nicotine, and from more of an ornamental standpoint, the frangipani appears critically entwined with temples across numerous Asian countries and religious and philosophical traditions however is also a new-world Johnny come lately. Some things that come to mind that spread in the other direction (Asia to Europe/Africa/America) in a little known and relatively late fashion were citrus and the chicken. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken

fuzztester 3y ago
The domestic chicken is supposed to have come from the junglefowl of India, as it says in the above Wikipedia article.
- contingencies 3y ago
  That's why it was listed under "other direction". Also, if you read the recent paper, it actually identifies Myanmar as the approximate origin.
  - fuzztester 3y ago
    >That's why it was listed under "other direction". That's why I quoted the Wikipedia link that you quoted - after reading the initial part of it, it, although I had also read about chickens and junglefowl years before, being interested in such topics, and being an Indian who has also roamed about in such jungles in Central India as a teenager: I had said, above: >>as it says in the above Wikipedia article.
    - contingencies 3y ago
      Umm, the epicenter of wild chicken biodiversity is not within modern or historic Indian borders, as far as the science can tell. It is in Myanmar, well beyond the range of direct subcontinental rule (excepting perhaps the British period). What exactly are you arguing? It is unclear from your statements.
      - fuzztester 3y ago
        >What exactly are you arguing? It is unclear from your statements. Jeez! What exactly makes you think that I am arguing anything at all, in the first place? In my above comment, I had used words like: >chicken is supposed to have come from and >as it says in the above Wikipedia article Note the italicized words. So that can't be considered an argument at all. It was just a casual observation, along the lines of saying "hey, I heard or read 'foo' statement somewhere". Make of it what you will, but don't try to turn it into an argument when it is not one. >Umm, the epicenter of wild chicken biodiversity is not within modern or historic Indian borders, as far as the science can tell. It is in Myanmar, well beyond the range of direct subcontinental rule (excepting perhaps the British period). As I said, my words were not an argument, even though you interpreted them as such. But even if they were an argument, you may be taking a narrow view of what was considered "India". And this is not about political boundaries (referring to your word "rule"). It was meant in the ecological / geographical / biological region senses of the term, under which, BTW, Myanmar is fairly close to (distance-wise) and similar to India anyway (although I was not even thinking of Myanmar above, nor had I even mentioned it). In those senses, a much larger geographical area was considered as part of "India", even in pre-British times. You might want to look up your history / natural history / geography of the India subcontinent (and even South-East Asia) a bit. To end, I think you might be one of confused, pedantic or trolling, none of which interests me, since as I said, mine was just a casual observation, not an argument. So I am exiting this discussion.
fuzztester 3y ago
>Other pertinent new world crops that drastically altered staple cuisines in Asia: potato, tomato, corn. Then of course there's tobacco / nicotine, and from more of an ornamental standpoint, the frangipani appears critically entwined with temples across numerous Asian countries and religious and philosophical traditions however is also a new-world Johnny come lately. It is known as the Columbian exchange: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_exchange https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_exchange

fuzztester 3y ago

The domestic chicken is supposed to have come from the junglefowl of India, as it says in the above Wikipedia article.

contingencies 3y ago
That's why it was listed under "other direction". Also, if you read the recent paper, it actually identifies Myanmar as the approximate origin.
- fuzztester 3y ago
  >That's why it was listed under "other direction". That's why I quoted the Wikipedia link that you quoted - after reading the initial part of it, it, although I had also read about chickens and junglefowl years before, being interested in such topics, and being an Indian who has also roamed about in such jungles in Central India as a teenager: I had said, above: >>as it says in the above Wikipedia article.
  - contingencies 3y ago
    Umm, the epicenter of wild chicken biodiversity is not within modern or historic Indian borders, as far as the science can tell. It is in Myanmar, well beyond the range of direct subcontinental rule (excepting perhaps the British period). What exactly are you arguing? It is unclear from your statements.
    - fuzztester 3y ago
      >What exactly are you arguing? It is unclear from your statements. Jeez! What exactly makes you think that I am arguing anything at all, in the first place? In my above comment, I had used words like: >chicken is supposed to have come from and >as it says in the above Wikipedia article Note the italicized words. So that can't be considered an argument at all. It was just a casual observation, along the lines of saying "hey, I heard or read 'foo' statement somewhere". Make of it what you will, but don't try to turn it into an argument when it is not one. >Umm, the epicenter of wild chicken biodiversity is not within modern or historic Indian borders, as far as the science can tell. It is in Myanmar, well beyond the range of direct subcontinental rule (excepting perhaps the British period). As I said, my words were not an argument, even though you interpreted them as such. But even if they were an argument, you may be taking a narrow view of what was considered "India". And this is not about political boundaries (referring to your word "rule"). It was meant in the ecological / geographical / biological region senses of the term, under which, BTW, Myanmar is fairly close to (distance-wise) and similar to India anyway (although I was not even thinking of Myanmar above, nor had I even mentioned it). In those senses, a much larger geographical area was considered as part of "India", even in pre-British times. You might want to look up your history / natural history / geography of the India subcontinent (and even South-East Asia) a bit. To end, I think you might be one of confused, pedantic or trolling, none of which interests me, since as I said, mine was just a casual observation, not an argument. So I am exiting this discussion.

fuzztester 3y ago

>Other pertinent new world crops that drastically altered staple cuisines in Asia: potato, tomato, corn. Then of course there's tobacco / nicotine, and from more of an ornamental standpoint, the frangipani appears critically entwined with temples across numerous Asian countries and religious and philosophical traditions however is also a new-world Johnny come lately. It is known as the Columbian exchange: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_exchange https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_exchange