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I have 110% replaced it with ChatGPT. Perhaps SO would still have a chance back in its glory days but there's no comparison to having a direct, specific, instan

I have 110% replaced it with ChatGPT. Perhaps SO would still have a chance back in its glory days but there's no comparison to having a direct, specific, instant answer vs having to fight against SEO or moderators for hours.

ezconnect 3y ago
I always read here ChatGPT is amazing. Can you give a link on how to use it? Every time I tried to google it returns lots of different results and when I tried it it:s not even usable for basic things I want. Is the ChatGPT you:re talking about on their website? Do I have to pay for it?
- osigurdson 3y ago
  https://chat.openai.com/ https://chat.openai.com/ I currently pay for it but I'm not sure if it makes any difference.
  - p1mrx 3y ago
    https://ai.com https://ai.com is easier to type
    - osigurdson 3y ago
      Nice! Good to know.
      - p1mrx 3y ago
        Looks like ai.com now redirects to an Elon Musk site. Perhaps OpenAI never controlled the domain?
  - Agingcoder 3y ago
    Yes it does - gpt 4 is vastly superior to gpt 3.
    - osigurdson 3y ago
      It is slow and rate limited however (even with the paid plan). I usually only use it when GPT3.5 isn't giving good results.
- adnmcq999 3y ago
  https://chat.openai.com/auth/login https://chat.openai.com/auth/login Ask it how to use it
  - admiral-mohamed 3y ago
    How to use
- alex_lav 3y ago
  You're mostly right in your experience. I have spent quite a bit of time trying to get ChatGPT to be a worthwhile piece of my workflow, and I guess sometimes it is, but most of the time the basic code or config or content I try to generate, it gets very fundamental things incorrect. It feels like it's mostly just hype these days.
  - honzabe 3y ago
    Can you please specify whether you use (paid) GPT-4? Would you kindly provide links to a few examples of very fundamental things incorrect? My experience - the free version made up a lot of things but still felt very useful - enough to want to upgrade to the paid version. With the paid version, I notice very rarely that it hallucinates. It does make errors but it can correct them when I provide feedback. It is possible that I just do not notice the errors you would notice, it is also possible that we use it differently. I would like to know.
    - alex_lav 3y ago
      > Can you please specify whether you use (paid) GPT-4? Paid. > Would you kindly provide links to a few examples of very fundamental things incorrect? No, definitely not. > I notice very rarely that it hallucinates. Unsure of what "hallucinates" means in this case. Some examples of things I've used it for: docker configuration, small blocks of code, generating a cover letter, proofreading a document, YAML validation, questions about various software SDKs. The outcome is usually somewhere on the spectrum of "not even close/not even valid output" to "kind of close but not close enough to warrant a paid service". When I ask for a simple paragraph and I get a response that isn't grammatically correct/doesn't include punctuation, I'm not sure what I'm paying for.
      - honzabe 3y ago
        >> Unsure of what "hallucinates" means in this case The term "hallucinations" is now commonly used for instances of AI making stuff up - like when I asked ChatGPT (before I had paid account) to recommend 5 books about a certain topic and two of the recommended books looked totally plausible, but when I tried to find them, I discovered there are no such books. This is where I see a big difference between GPT-3.5 and GPT-4. >> I get a response that isn't grammatically correct/doesn't include punctuation What punctuation? If you mean stuff like commas separating complex sentences, my English is definitely not good enough to spot that. But your mention of punctuation reminded me of problems that ChatGPT has with my native language... any chance you are using ChatGPT in a language other than English?
- Eisenstein 3y ago
  > Can you give a link on how to use it? Every time I tried to google it returns lots of different results and when I tried it it:s not even usable for basic things I want. Here is an example of using it to write simple powershell scripts: * https://chat.openai.com/share/17a9d185-4a8c-4c10-97a2-0c5b0886f63e https://chat.openai.com/share/17a9d185-4a8c-4c10-97a2-0c5b08... Here is an example of using it to merge different types of json configuration files: * https://chat.openai.com/share/ed0c9cf9-7586-43df-9271-7b5859f168b0 https://chat.openai.com/share/ed0c9cf9-7586-43df-9271-7b5859... You need to pay for it if you want access to the latest version of the model, along with some beta features like plugins. Plugins are extremely useful and it is worth paying just to get access to them. For instance, you need to have a certain plugin to get it to read links.
  - merdaverse 3y ago
    In that JSON example you're honestly losing more time with ChatGPT that doing it yourself. It seems more like mentoring a junior than a helpful assistant. Most of my interactions with it have been this way.
    - Eisenstein 3y ago
      I knew/know very little about 3D printers and the fields didn't mean much to me so I didn't want to have to research every one of them. It wouldn't have been difficult, just tedious.
testtestabcdef 3y ago
I haven't. Because (free, as in free beer) chatGPT is extremely slow, I have to make a rather extensive proompt to get the result I want to, and then I still have to debug most code. That's not very convenient, atleast for now. I got so used to search engines by now, that it only takes a few keywords to get the expected result. Be it a SO-answer or a documentation page. And as people have mentioned, chatGPT was learned on the stuff that's on the internet, so if there will never be any new stuff, because people just use AI, then it will not learn and won't answer your new questions. For some edge cases I might try AI here or there, but usually it's not for me. Hell, there comes even an example to my mind. I recently just asked chatGPT what a single-issue 5 stage pipeline on a CPU actually means. I wanted to know if, especially, the "single-issue" meant that only one instruction is present in the pipeline at a time, or if a new one gets shifted in on every clock cycle (if there is no hazard). It just couldn't answer it straight-forward. It was also kinda hard to find the exact definition on the internet. I found it in a book from the 90s which was chilling in my book shelf (Computer architecture and parallel processing by Kai Hwang). Hint: Single-issue just means that only one instruction can be in one stage at a time, but still multiple get processed inside the pipeline. The keyword is 'underpipelined'
- deleted 3y ago
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- chillee 3y ago
  ChatGPT-4 seems to do fine on this for me. https://chat.openai.com/share/c5cc8cb6-ebb5-45eb-9476-ef85a601cd0b https://chat.openai.com/share/c5cc8cb6-ebb5-45eb-9476-ef85a6...
  - testtestabcdef 3y ago
    Yes, someone tested it on GPT-4 for me too and that actually gave a quite decent reply. Still, there are always some cases somewhere where it messes up. I'll just keep an eye on AI progress, but will probably not make it my goto for some time. Maybe later (whenever that is)
- Closi 3y ago
PeterStuer 3y ago
That was before the decline. Straight ChatGPT is getting more useless for coding by the day.
jacobsenscott 3y ago
You do know where chatgpt got those answers, right?

ezconnect 3y ago

I always read here ChatGPT is amazing. Can you give a link on how to use it? Every time I tried to google it returns lots of different results and when I tried it it:s not even usable for basic things I want. Is the ChatGPT you:re talking about on their website? Do I have to pay for it?

osigurdson 3y ago
https://chat.openai.com/ https://chat.openai.com/ I currently pay for it but I'm not sure if it makes any difference.
- p1mrx 3y ago
  https://ai.com https://ai.com is easier to type
  - osigurdson 3y ago
    Nice! Good to know.
    - p1mrx 3y ago
      Looks like ai.com now redirects to an Elon Musk site. Perhaps OpenAI never controlled the domain?
- Agingcoder 3y ago
  Yes it does - gpt 4 is vastly superior to gpt 3.
  - osigurdson 3y ago
    It is slow and rate limited however (even with the paid plan). I usually only use it when GPT3.5 isn't giving good results.
adnmcq999 3y ago
https://chat.openai.com/auth/login https://chat.openai.com/auth/login Ask it how to use it
- admiral-mohamed 3y ago
  How to use
alex_lav 3y ago
You're mostly right in your experience. I have spent quite a bit of time trying to get ChatGPT to be a worthwhile piece of my workflow, and I guess sometimes it is, but most of the time the basic code or config or content I try to generate, it gets very fundamental things incorrect. It feels like it's mostly just hype these days.
- honzabe 3y ago
  Can you please specify whether you use (paid) GPT-4? Would you kindly provide links to a few examples of very fundamental things incorrect? My experience - the free version made up a lot of things but still felt very useful - enough to want to upgrade to the paid version. With the paid version, I notice very rarely that it hallucinates. It does make errors but it can correct them when I provide feedback. It is possible that I just do not notice the errors you would notice, it is also possible that we use it differently. I would like to know.
  - alex_lav 3y ago
    > Can you please specify whether you use (paid) GPT-4? Paid. > Would you kindly provide links to a few examples of very fundamental things incorrect? No, definitely not. > I notice very rarely that it hallucinates. Unsure of what "hallucinates" means in this case. Some examples of things I've used it for: docker configuration, small blocks of code, generating a cover letter, proofreading a document, YAML validation, questions about various software SDKs. The outcome is usually somewhere on the spectrum of "not even close/not even valid output" to "kind of close but not close enough to warrant a paid service". When I ask for a simple paragraph and I get a response that isn't grammatically correct/doesn't include punctuation, I'm not sure what I'm paying for.
    - honzabe 3y ago
      >> Unsure of what "hallucinates" means in this case The term "hallucinations" is now commonly used for instances of AI making stuff up - like when I asked ChatGPT (before I had paid account) to recommend 5 books about a certain topic and two of the recommended books looked totally plausible, but when I tried to find them, I discovered there are no such books. This is where I see a big difference between GPT-3.5 and GPT-4. >> I get a response that isn't grammatically correct/doesn't include punctuation What punctuation? If you mean stuff like commas separating complex sentences, my English is definitely not good enough to spot that. But your mention of punctuation reminded me of problems that ChatGPT has with my native language... any chance you are using ChatGPT in a language other than English?
Eisenstein 3y ago
> Can you give a link on how to use it? Every time I tried to google it returns lots of different results and when I tried it it:s not even usable for basic things I want. Here is an example of using it to write simple powershell scripts: * https://chat.openai.com/share/17a9d185-4a8c-4c10-97a2-0c5b0886f63e https://chat.openai.com/share/17a9d185-4a8c-4c10-97a2-0c5b08... Here is an example of using it to merge different types of json configuration files: * https://chat.openai.com/share/ed0c9cf9-7586-43df-9271-7b5859f168b0 https://chat.openai.com/share/ed0c9cf9-7586-43df-9271-7b5859... You need to pay for it if you want access to the latest version of the model, along with some beta features like plugins. Plugins are extremely useful and it is worth paying just to get access to them. For instance, you need to have a certain plugin to get it to read links.
- merdaverse 3y ago
  In that JSON example you're honestly losing more time with ChatGPT that doing it yourself. It seems more like mentoring a junior than a helpful assistant. Most of my interactions with it have been this way.
  - Eisenstein 3y ago
    I knew/know very little about 3D printers and the fields didn't mean much to me so I didn't want to have to research every one of them. It wouldn't have been difficult, just tedious.

testtestabcdef 3y ago

I haven't. Because (free, as in free beer) chatGPT is extremely slow, I have to make a rather extensive proompt to get the result I want to, and then I still have to debug most code. That's not very convenient, atleast for now. I got so used to search engines by now, that it only takes a few keywords to get the expected result. Be it a SO-answer or a documentation page. And as people have mentioned, chatGPT was learned on the stuff that's on the internet, so if there will never be any new stuff, because people just use AI, then it will not learn and won't answer your new questions. For some edge cases I might try AI here or there, but usually it's not for me. Hell, there comes even an example to my mind. I recently just asked chatGPT what a single-issue 5 stage pipeline on a CPU actually means. I wanted to know if, especially, the "single-issue" meant that only one instruction is present in the pipeline at a time, or if a new one gets shifted in on every clock cycle (if there is no hazard). It just couldn't answer it straight-forward. It was also kinda hard to find the exact definition on the internet. I found it in a book from the 90s which was chilling in my book shelf (Computer architecture and parallel processing by Kai Hwang). Hint: Single-issue just means that only one instruction can be in one stage at a time, but still multiple get processed inside the pipeline. The keyword is 'underpipelined'

deleted 3y ago
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chillee 3y ago
ChatGPT-4 seems to do fine on this for me. https://chat.openai.com/share/c5cc8cb6-ebb5-45eb-9476-ef85a601cd0b https://chat.openai.com/share/c5cc8cb6-ebb5-45eb-9476-ef85a6...
- testtestabcdef 3y ago
  Yes, someone tested it on GPT-4 for me too and that actually gave a quite decent reply. Still, there are always some cases somewhere where it messes up. I'll just keep an eye on AI progress, but will probably not make it my goto for some time. Maybe later (whenever that is)
Closi 3y ago

PeterStuer 3y ago

That was before the decline. Straight ChatGPT is getting more useless for coding by the day.

jacobsenscott 3y ago

You do know where chatgpt got those answers, right?