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> In just the last 20-30 years we've gone from "if the government wants to know your speech, they are a warrant(-ish) away from getting it" Couldn't people jus
by Buttons840 3y ago
> In just the last 20-30 years we've gone from "if the government wants to know your speech, they are a warrant(-ish) away from getting it"
Couldn't people just talk quietly and nobody would ever know what they said to each other? Humanity has survived how long under this condition?
- didntcheck 3y agoTo be fair, it was still hard to hide "metadata". If you met someone in person, or sent a letter, then it would be hard to conceal that from someone surveiling you The difference was they had to be actively targeting you beforehand, and it was an ongoing high expense per target. Now we bulk collect data on the basis that someone might be guilty in the future
- gcanyon 3y agoWire-tapping is a thing. Sensitive microphones are a thing. "The Thing" is a thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)
- Buttons840 3y agoAgain, you act like not being able to wire-tap is a new thing. How long did humanity survive without wires? The ability to have a private conversation that remains a secret forever is a fundamental human right that goes back a hundred thousand years.
- gcanyon 3y agoI'm not sure we agree on the definition of "fundamental human right" -- are you using it to mean "an aspect of fundamental reality"?