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"The culture of food actually changes very rapidly; fast food and espresso cafes has found much expansion overseas, and fundamentally changed diets, driving up

"The culture of food actually changes very rapidly; fast food and espresso cafes has found much expansion overseas, and fundamentally changed diets, driving up obesity and other major health issues." Yea, because people like those things (fast food and espresso). Getting people to do less of something they really like? (Eat meat) Not likely, no matter how great your vegan slop tastes.

nicbou 3y ago
It’s doable if you substitute it with something equally good, which vegetarian food can be. India and the Mediterranean has amazing vegetarian food. Eating Indian food is an upgrade in my book. It’s also important to consider that you can simply eat less meat and not quit it altogether. You might not get people to give up meat, but you can get them to eat 30% less without feeling like it’s a sacrifice.
- myshpa 3y ago
  Veganism is not and does not feel like sacrifice. Btw, when you become vegan, you realize you've been taking something that wasn't yours to take in the first place. And vegan food can be extremely tasty and filling. You can't just take meat out of a recipe and think you have vegan food. Idea: try searching "<any_recipe> vegan"
  - nicbou 3y ago
    I respectfully disagree. It's a lot of habits that you must break, a lot of flavours that you must forget. There is a lot of amazing vegan food, but the vegan version of what people know is often a pale substitute. You might convince people with curry, but likely not with vegan sausage. I think that it's more realistic to get people to massively cut their meat and dairy consumption than to really go vegan. Do what you can, but cheat sometimes. In other words, I think it's better to accept that most people will get halfway there, and to make that easy.
    - myshpa 3y ago
      Where I live there are many new plant-based junk foods every year (not something I'd eat every day or week, but useful and welcomed sometimes). Just in the last year I've had some plant-based bacon and sausages that my SO refuses to eat for being "too meat-like". > I think it's better to accept that most people will get halfway there Agree ... stepping stones. > a lot of flavours that you must forget A lot of those flavours are spices, and methods of preparation. Have you tried eating raw meat or unsalted cheese?
      - nicbou 3y ago
        I'm just culturally more familiar with meat prep, that's all. I've had my mind blown by good vegan food, but it was very far from what I was exposed too while growing up. I think that's the idea. We need to get more people exposed to good vegan food. Someone get Jamie Oliver!
        myshpa 3y ago
        There are many good vegan restaurants, even some with Michelin stars. There are vegan tv cooking shows (check youtube). There are thousands of sites with good vegan recipes. Even Jamie Oliver has 160+ vegan recipes on his site :) https://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/category/special-diets/vegan/ https://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/category/special-diets/v...

nicbou 3y ago

It’s doable if you substitute it with something equally good, which vegetarian food can be. India and the Mediterranean has amazing vegetarian food. Eating Indian food is an upgrade in my book. It’s also important to consider that you can simply eat less meat and not quit it altogether. You might not get people to give up meat, but you can get them to eat 30% less without feeling like it’s a sacrifice.

myshpa 3y ago
Veganism is not and does not feel like sacrifice. Btw, when you become vegan, you realize you've been taking something that wasn't yours to take in the first place. And vegan food can be extremely tasty and filling. You can't just take meat out of a recipe and think you have vegan food. Idea: try searching "<any_recipe> vegan"
- nicbou 3y ago
  I respectfully disagree. It's a lot of habits that you must break, a lot of flavours that you must forget. There is a lot of amazing vegan food, but the vegan version of what people know is often a pale substitute. You might convince people with curry, but likely not with vegan sausage. I think that it's more realistic to get people to massively cut their meat and dairy consumption than to really go vegan. Do what you can, but cheat sometimes. In other words, I think it's better to accept that most people will get halfway there, and to make that easy.
  - myshpa 3y ago
    Where I live there are many new plant-based junk foods every year (not something I'd eat every day or week, but useful and welcomed sometimes). Just in the last year I've had some plant-based bacon and sausages that my SO refuses to eat for being "too meat-like". > I think it's better to accept that most people will get halfway there Agree ... stepping stones. > a lot of flavours that you must forget A lot of those flavours are spices, and methods of preparation. Have you tried eating raw meat or unsalted cheese?
    - nicbou 3y ago
      I'm just culturally more familiar with meat prep, that's all. I've had my mind blown by good vegan food, but it was very far from what I was exposed too while growing up. I think that's the idea. We need to get more people exposed to good vegan food. Someone get Jamie Oliver!
      - myshpa 3y ago
        There are many good vegan restaurants, even some with Michelin stars. There are vegan tv cooking shows (check youtube). There are thousands of sites with good vegan recipes. Even Jamie Oliver has 160+ vegan recipes on his site :) https://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/category/special-diets/vegan/ https://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/category/special-diets/v...